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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    There aren't enough expletives to explain how I feel.

    G's dad has been the main stress in wedding planning. My mum's guest-list has nothing on his rants. He is Al Murray's pub landlord without the irony.

    So the latest rant is over the fact that we're planning to double barrel our surnames as I refuse to just take his name.

    The main issue is that G doesn't fight back. He just rolls over and takes it and leaves me to sort out all the mess left behind and it drives me crackers.

    I swear, if I keep my name, all our children will have my name only and his will die out.
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    • bluefish
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    That's such a shame.

    I am lucky that Ed's folks are so helpful... his Dad bought ten bottles of red wine so that we could choose our favourite and now he's ordering it by the box along with all the champagne.

    Personally, I am taking his name because that's what I want.

    Looks like you will have to get used to fighting your corner. But a shame that you have to and a shame that you are left feeling like you're on your own with it.
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    • Stevie_Dee
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    Out of interest why do you refuse to take his name? x

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    • x~Hails~x
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    See im having stress about weather or not to double barrel my name or not???

    I have two girls from my 1st marriage so they have his name (which is mine at the mo) but we have a son that has h2b's surname SO im in two minds weather or not to double barrel so i still have the same name as ALL my children but h2b doesnt want me to have the exs surname still lol
    His way of looking at it is they are girls so might not always have that surname whereas our son will (maybe?)

    GRRRR no idea still :-(


    Have you thought of keeping your maiden name and your h2b taken your surname instead of double barreling??
    Thats what my friends husband did, as she is an only child of an only child but he has 3 brothers.

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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    Stevie_Dee - Because I don't see why I should have to. His sounds awful with my forename and in all honesty if it weren't for the fact that he shares his middle name with my dad, I would have suggested that he took mine. Why should women take their husband's name?

    Hails - I did think about it, but it sounds too like my dad's name if he did and that would just creep me out a bit.
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    • Stevie_Dee
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    Ah I understand sorry was just curious! xx

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    Sorry, I come from a matriarchal family full of feminists. I'm not fond of chauvinists like G's dad trying to force me to conform to their narrow ideas on life (particularly after his digs at Ethnic minorities)
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    • Liz3yy
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    Oh what a charming person he sounds like!

    Can't wait until the day I become Mrs. Johnson :)


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    • RoseyB
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    Im double barrelling but h2b isnt taking my name as well. I get mixed reactions, get sick of explaining it to be honest. Don't see why it's a problem myself. I'm happy for our children to just have his name it's just my preference i LOVE my name and can't bare to part with it. Some of h2bs friends have said it emasculating??? WTF??! I ask what century we are living in. And Ive never considered myself much of a feminist I'm actually pretty traditional.
    Don't let the old man get to you special sundae just enjoy the fact hes missing out on a whole other side of life and culture by being so closed off xxx
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    Hun I had to edit your post as someone pointed out to me that although the words are not yours there are people on here that will still find their use offensive x

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    • Jilly17
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    Nothing like a potential in law to stoke the fire! H2b needs to stand up to his dad and stop you from being the baddy all of the time. We still cant decide what to do either but if we double barrell his mums head will explode ....always a silver lining! ha ha
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    • MrsBroady2B
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    My name would sound naff if i had a double-barreld name. But sometimes I think, I would like to keep my name, I dont want the same name as his folks. They are never happy, and always moan. I also wish our kids didn't have there name eaither.




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    Not a problem Modmother. I couldn't believe anyone actually used them in real life any more.

    Particularly offensive when I'm bisexual and Jewish.
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    • lala "mod" bunni
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    i thought about double -barrelling and did put it to Mr lala but he says he doesnt think it works ?

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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    Ours sound quite nice together.
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    • Croc
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    Hails....... im in the same situation.... but ive found a plan for it

    my h2b is heard ... i am johnson (exs surname ) my son is johnson

    i will be kellie johnson heard

    my son will be dylan johnson- heard

    one difference is .. is the hyphen.... if i dont do the hyphen on mine i can drop the johnson at any point in every day life except passport driving licence except with dead poll ... but i still want to be the same as my son

    however in every day life i will be mrs heard.... but my sons will be hyphenated and everyone will use it all as it has the hyphen

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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    My parents' friends who each kept their names always ended up being known as a family by a double-barrelled name, so I'm just cutting out a step.
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    • mrs handforth
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    im having this problem with names,when we had our son we double barrled his last name so it is handforth-milloy but now ive thought about it i think we are going to change our sons name to just handforth and i will also take handfoth,x
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    • Mel D
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    I've thought about it ... but our surnames don't go ... but I don't really want his name. He's thinking of changing his name to his stepdad's, so there's hope on the horizon!

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    • MrsMelodyWalker
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    If I double barrel my surname and OH's, I'd be Melody Skidmore-Walker .. it's ridiculous. I wouldn't put a poor child through that LoL.. Would end up be called Skid-Walk or Walk-More :-/ LoL! xx

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    Oh for heaven's sake! It's just come out that his dad thinks they're paying for "most of" the wedding when that should be the bride's family's job...

    Hmm...

    Well if you add up all that my family have put in at their monetary value it comes to three times what they've agreed to put in at present and my family have put in just under what Grant and I are putting in ourselves.

    And what century does he live in that it's the bride's family job to pay for everything?????
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    • ruchick06
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    haha melody! i would be ruth moreland- mitchell It really doesnt work!!
    I'm ok with taking his name though. My brother is the only moreland left to carry on the name- no presure! lol
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    • MrsMelodyWalker
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    Old school! x

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    • ruchick06
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    aww special sundae, thats not fair... let him get on with his rants. dont lket it annoy you...itll be u and ur h2b tht matters from now on!
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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    We're getting to the point of telling them to shove their catering (which is what they're paying for) and going back to having an Indian caterer do it. Then we wouldn't have to invite them either.
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    • MrsC.Wade2B
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    If i double barreled mine it would be howard wade or wade howard lol but im happy taking his surname, SpecialSundae sorry to hear your having a stressful time but remember its your day and your life, do whatever makes you happy and i your h2b dont mind sod other peoples opinon, its not them your marrying! *hugs* xx

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    • NishaVyas88
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    Stuff him, he's just being a chauvanistic troublemaker. Ignore him and do what you want. After all, its your wedding!
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    • suzky123
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    h2b gave me the choice.... therefore I am happy taking his name as it wasnt expected of me. if his dad is being a pain, i would not let him input any money or he will think there are certain elements he can control.... be VERY careful. we said parents could contribute but have not told them what they are contributing too other than my mum who wanted to buy the dress and the fireworks. His parents money is just going in 'the pot' as they were trying to control guest lists etc as they had it in their head they were paying for part of the venue. Watch him carefully and if you can do it without his contribution, then please do.

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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    Anyone who's contributing is paying for very specific things, thankfully, so the only thing they can control is that thing. Sadly they're controlling the catering at present, but we can afford to tell them to stuff off and do our own thing, if we have to. We can even still afford to go with traditional catering if absolutely necessary.
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    • Lisa Ramos
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    SpecialSundae - He sounds like a total kn0b! We were considering having a double barrelled surname but it would sound rubbish ( my surname is Ramos and his is Garton). We've been together 19 yrs and our son has my surname as I wanted him to carry on my name (h2b has another son with his surname). I've decided to keep my surname once we are married as it doesn't make me any less married. Good luck with the fil2b

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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    Having agreed after the last blow-up that we'd stick to the original plan of double-barrelling, G's just spoken to his mum who burst into tears when he asked her how she felt about it and he's probably going to keep his name.

    To be honest, I hate the fact that our plans are changing because of them. I feel like it's going to have to live with it for the rest of my life even though it makes me miserable. I'll always know that he chose to keep his name to appease his parents even though it hurts me.
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    • Pinky1985
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    I want to take my H2B surname as my girls have his name and I'm the odd one out, I feel like it will tie us all intogether and be a 'proper' family! Just gutted tho as the Painter surname dies out with my brother and his wife now as they had two girls (altho they may decide to stay Painters or never marry) and I'm turning into an Inns! :S xxx
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    I respect other people's choice to take their husband's surname if they choose but I feel like G's parents are trying to strong-arm me into doing it and ensure that I'm known as "Mrs Horne" even if I really REALLY don't want to be.

    If he keeps his name and/or our children take his name, I'm going to end up being known as "Mrs Horne" even if I keep my maiden name, whereas if we take a double-barrelled surname then I'll at least have some level of control over retaining my name in social situations.
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    • Pinky1985
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    Thats true! Never thought of it like that, I suppose people would automatically assume wouldn't they, whereas if you double barrel it then you can like you say control it!!

    Really bugs me when people (especially family) try and stick their oar in! Whos bloody decision is it?!?! Meh! If its any consolation my H2B dad won't wear a suit, button hole or be in any photos which is important to us!! Dunno why he is even bothering in coming especially as when we told him we were going to get married hes first reaction was are you stupid?? Charming! Hes being a complete pain!!
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    • Ataraxia
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    What about having your maiden name as your middle name? Like they do in America, but then you can control it as much by only using your full name when you introduce yourself etc... that way you're not hyphening anything and in-laws can't get fussy, but you still get to keep your own name?

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    • Kinkyemo
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    Im changing mine but only as I got picked on for it lol!

    I was considering keeping my own name as I have 3 sisters and once we have all got married and changed our names the 'Colley' name will die out!

    I have never spoke of names to anyone and if someone tried to force me to change or keep my name id do the exact opposite! Its YOUR choice what you are known as not the in laws or even H2B's Its YOUR name and if people cant let you decide that then its obvious that they just want to control who YOU are!
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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    Ataraxia - The problem is that even nearly 30 years after they got married and over 10 years after they divorced my mother, who kept her maiden name, is still sometimes referred to by my dad's name. I can still double-barrel if I choose, but I'll end up being referred to with his surname (particularly if we get pushed into giving the kids his surname in the same way).

    So what I do with my surname is almost a moot point because there are still assumptions based on the husband's surname and the children's surname. Whatever happens, if he keeps his surname, I'll lose mine one way or another.
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    • Lisa Ramos
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    I'll be honest I would be really angry if my h2b and I agreed on something as important as our surname and he then changed his mind. It obviously means a lot to you, so you need to sit down with your hubby and tell him why you should stick with the double-barrelled surname you both agreed on. Why should you be stuck with a surname you don't want for the rest of your life, just because his Mum sheds a few tears. Hope you get it sorted

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    • Ataraxia
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    Hmm, that is a nightmare. I do think the naming conventions are stupid... especially when it's family being fussy! Is he an only child or the only male? Will his family name die out if your children don't have his name? Will your family name die out if you take his? Of course regardless of any of the above, you should be allowed to keep whatever name you feel like having, you're a grown woman in the 21st century and it's not exactly unusual for women to keep their names for business or personal reasons! All that bumf about emasculation and everything is ridiculous - having his name or not doesn't make you any more or less married, does it!

    I considered double-barrelling but I'm estranged from my family so I'm not fussed if their name dies out or not!

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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    He's the only child but he has a very common name and if we double-barrel it will continue. If he does keep his name then I think I'm going to have to get it in writing that any children will either take my name or double-barrel, because otherwise he'll change his mind that as well. I have a brother who could theoretically "carry on the family name" but that's not really the issue.

    We agreed this long before we got engaged officially and I can't believe he's going back on it now. What else will his parents do to drive wedges between us?
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    • Ataraxia
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    Just trying to think of bargaining chips :P as I said the biggest one is that you just want your own name which is obviously perfectly fine but if you've got a debate for it it's nice to have back-up reasons :P

    If he does insist on keeping his and only his name, I would think having double barreled kids names is reasonable enough in exchange... even if he doesn't agree you are mama so you get final say! It's awful that he's gone back on his word, I would be just as upset if it were me, if he's marrying you then regardless of his parents and family, you will become his closest lawful family member and if he's already taking sides that's unfair on you! His parents should butt out too!

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    • Lisa Ramos
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    I would actually say he can keep his surname but you will keep yours and any children you have will take yours. You came up with a perfectly reasonable compromise for everyone involved, including his parents! If his Mother's so upset about him losing his surname fine, but his surname can die out that way or you both have a double barrelled surname and your children carry on both sets of families name. I'm sorry I sound so angry, but this has really wound me up! Why don't family members mind their own business. I would also be concerned that your hubby is buckling at the first hurdle.

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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    Him buckling at the first hurdle is one of the biggest issues. He's now stormed out of the house because I said I wanted any agreements on children's names to be in writing, given that he has welched on this one.
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    • Lisa Ramos
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    Typical! He's only angry because he knows he is in the wrong.

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    • Katie
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    Stay strong honey. You cant feel that any decisions you make between you can be altered if his parents dont like it. Tell him to man up and grow a pair or you will be worried for your future.
    Jonas and I have already changed our names through deed poll as we were applying for our passports. We have double barrelled our names because we have both been married before we are both Eyden - Hainsworths now although I wont feel like I am until we get married :-)

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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    Okay, it kicked off last night. I'd been to check out honeymoons and had it pointed out that we need to make a decision on our names before we book.

    So we did what we'd been saying we would for a while and talked to Grant's dad together, thinking that he might see sense... but he just went off on one even more than usual saying that Grant was Christened with his surname and that it wasn't the done thing and his friend's (who are all as out of date as he is) are all horrified that Grant's considering changing it. He also reiterated that they would disown Grant if he dared to go against their will. He then hung up on me.

    Grant had been refusing to make a decision but, after discussion possibly uninviting his entire family, possibly including his parents, and reshuffling the budget massively to try to work out how to pay for the removal of £7000 , we've finally found a compromise.

    We're not going to make any moves on officially changing our names at the moment, but after the wedding we will both be known socially as our double-barrelled name. So we can tell his parents that he isn't changing his name, but anyone other than them and HMRC will know us as Mrs and Mr H-H.
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    • Emsy5000
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    hummmm its a solution but if you are going to be known socially and not tell them can you not be known offically and not tell them.

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    • heidianne
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    if H2B agree's to double barrel your names then FIL will just have to be ignored. double barelling will mean keeping the name alive but it also keeps yours alive to especially if you like your name. Ignore it if you've agreed then tough x

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    • CommentAuthorSpecialSundae
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    It's our way of keeping the peace. We'll probably do the deed poll etc when we have kids, but they still write cheques so Grant's bank account needs to stay in his unmarried name for the time being.
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    • XLittleMissMe!X
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    You know what you could do? He can keep his own name and you could double barrel yours on the wedding day. That way he can say that his isn't changing and you are taking on his name and they won't know unless they look carefully at the register what you have changed it to. Its free for you to change it on the day but you have to pay after the day. Once the wedding is over it is up to him if he wants to then double it like yours. They can't do anything by that point and it saves having to lie or do anything else.




 

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