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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    Firstly, with respect, 'Mods', I spent a long time checking that there was no similar thread, and no "Ceremony Type" before clicking my Category. Maybe this is somthing you could includude?
    My H2B&I are planning on holding a traditional Wiccan/Neo-Pagan "Handfasting" ceremony, which is a really beautiful ceremony based around the elements of the earth, and the tieing of knots in ribbons, around the couple's hands. The ceremony also includes the ritualistic circle, the jumping of a besom brroom, and many other non-christian-tradional elements. Google/Yahoo/Ask etc for more info, far too complex to explain here
    My question to the forum is; would you, as a non-innitiate, feel comfortable being invited to stand incside a sacred circle, hearing a wedding ceremony that you had little-to-no knowledge of and [for some] participating in the ceremony in a v. real way? [for those who know what im talking about, im talking about the Element Keepers]
    Also; would you take this to mean as much as a "tradional*" church wedding?

    Thanks ladies Will be interesting to hear responces :] Much love, B <3 x

    NB; *= The Pagan ceremony of Handfasting is recorded to be around long before the established C Of E Wedding we know today, however, admittedly, the Wiccan and Neo-Pagan rites we follow today vary slightly from those then.
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    • XLittleMissMe!X
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    OK I have to admit I'm not really into it myself but wouldn't be offended if I were a guest and would respect that you want to do this and it is important to you. Its only the same as going to an Asian, Jewish, Greek wedding etc. Just because someone believes something different to you doesn't mean that you can't have fun with them and help make their day special.




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    • Faeth
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    Just as I would sit through a catholic church wedding if that's what the couple had invited me to, then equally I would participate in a wiccan/neo pagan ceremony.

    I would assume it would mean as much as any other religious ceremony to the couple in question. :-) There's an atheist's answer for you ;p

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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    Thankyou. I've heard alot of my ex-friends (cant let me do what i feel is right) saying that its a "Fake" religion, becasue it's not recognised on Uk citezenship paperwork, or in the Census. However, its one of the oldest recorded religions in England, many of the "Christian" traditions people celebrate are actually Pagan [eg- Christmas trees originally came from the Yule Log that pagans brought inside for the 21/22nd of Dec] and it means alot to me.
    I guess that the difference is, Catholism, Judaism, Greek wedding etc is all done under a centralized, [single person leadership] religion. Wicca involves you having your own relationship with the deity, and is a non-centralized religion. & people cant see past that.
    My great-grandad has just [last 2 mins] said he wont be coming to a "witchcraft bull**** ceremony" :[ <3 x
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    • XLittleMissMe!X
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    I have my own beliefs that don't fall under anything. Its mainly because although I have faith I refuse to be cattled into any of the boxes. I can't see how any of the religions can be so closed mind about a lot of things. For example I couldn't get married in the church with disabled access because I lived in the wrong street yet they couldn't provide disabled access in the church next to us. I'm sure that God wouldn't discriminate against me for getting married in another church so why does the church think it can stop me from getting married in what they call Gods house? It doesn't matter what name you label things as in essence all religions are supposed to unite people and bring out the good in them yet man has decided to use this to gain power over others and use it as a hate mechanism. Its that part I don't like.

    People should have the freedom to believe in what they want to believe as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. As for others saying its a fake wedding it doesn't matter. Its your relationship and its real to you. A marriage is about the commitment you make to each other and it doesn't matter who it is done in front of, the commitment is still the same. If your grandad wants to think of it as bullSh*t then that is up to him but it is very sad if he misses out on his great granddaughter celebrating her special day.




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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    thsnkyou. youve made me feel alot better. Its hard to hear somthing you believe in trashed around you 1000x a day.
    Sounds horrid with churches; i wouldnt know where to beigin being p133ed off about that one!!
    The Witches Rede states "Do what thy will; As long as it hurt none" :]
    My partner and i feel very strongly about what we believe in and youre right; why should i care what they think?! it's OUR day afterall, not theirs. <3 x
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    • lala "mod" bunni
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    ( you may have noticed tha\t you have a new category ....Inspred by you )

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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    WELL IN!! (sorry localized saying)
    How do i transfer catagory of thread? :S
    THANK-YOU LALA :D <3 x
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    • XLittleMissMe!X
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    Glad your feeling better. Your not alone though as it doesn't matter what you believe in there is always someone out there that will say something bad about it. I went down to see my friend on the train and it was full of EDL yobs shouting abuse because there were some Muslim guys on the train and they are idiots with nothing better to do. It just goes to show how pathetic some people are. If we were all the same life would be boring. Some people just can't be happy for others so you have learn to ignore them and be happy with yourself.




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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    ...you did it for me!! awwwh, thank-you!! you really are lovly :D
    Have a FANTASTIC weekend! -you've made mine :D <3 x
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    • Griff
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    I am wiccan but my partner is not so I am getting married in a church on the grounds it was the church where I went to the youth group linked to it. I really would love a handfasting ceremony xxx
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    • XLittleMissMe!X
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    Can't you do both griff? We are having a civil and then a church blessing. Could you not have the church service and then the handfasting?




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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    Jo; I hate rasicim in all forms; if they're happy then good for them
    As part of my religion i accepted (formally) a saying;

    I acknowledge the presence of other faiths on my planet, indeed, right here in my city/town/village. I acknowledge that the followers of these faiths feel as strongly, maybe more so, than I do about mine.

    I forgive the other faiths and wipe clean the slate between us. I cannot hold a person responsible for the acts of their faith, I cannot hold a faith at fault for individual practitioners. It is not my place to convert, or otherwise alter a person's religion. I invite discussion of beliefs without judgment of those holding them.

    I acknowledge that I may be wrong, and I have found comfort in the fact that I may be right.



    And yeah, despite other people tearing it down, i know that what i believe makes me happy, and that what religion is SUPPOSED to do, right? ,3 x
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    and Griff; why not get your handfasting done on previuosly (or bully a Christian priest into it) church-concecrated grounds? would that satisfy H2B? BlessedBe. <3 x
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    • Griff
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    No I'm afraid not but I will ask for an eternity handfasting ceremony instead of a wedding handfasting afterwards to bless the wedding xxx
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    you realise alots of HPS' arent comfortable casting a n Eternity ceremony? ;not to sound bad, and meant nicely, but have you really really thought about "Eternity" and all that it means? However, that does sound lovly; I saw one Pagan website [based in cornwall] talking about doing a "vow blessing" ceremony that recognises your wedding in the Faith. <3x
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    • Griff
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    I know ca ca ca I have talked with mine and they are going to think very seriously about it although they do want us to go through some questions to see whether we do appreciate what an eternity means I have been very thorough in my thoughts and during my circle time I have been focussed on nothing else but finding the truth in my own heart of whether our union can last the eternity I'll send you a pm to let you know what I found. And don't worry I have not yet taken offense at anything anyone has said to me on here I generally let things fly over my head xxx
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    • GregorysGirl
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    I would be happy to attend and if I knew what type of wedding it was beforehand then I would do research so that I could really appreciate what was going on during the ceremony. I think the only wedding I would be uncomfortable attending would be a naked one, lol. All fine if that was what someone wanted, but I just wouldn't know where to look without blushing, lol. Sounds lovely though your wedding! :) x

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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    i hope you understand all i say is meant with good intentions, even if it doesnt always sound like that. Are we friends here yet? we probably should be :L <3 x
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    GregorysGirl; tyvm its nice to hear people not trashing my beliefs; its such a nice change! lolz
    Thankyou for your honesty. Blessed Be. <3 x
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    • Griff
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    I added you as a friend and don't ever worry I know you will never attempt to harm or negatively influence another being so I can take all you say from the heart in a loving manner :) Thank you for your care and attentions. Blessed Be. xxx
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    • Griff
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    I have sent you a message on your wall hunni xx
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    thankyou babes. Left a message in a thread about flowers, mainly about herbs and correspondences :L makes me smile, at leaset

    <3 x
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    • Katkin
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    Hi ca'ca'ca, I started a discussion a while go called 'Help with pagan ceremony' as we are having a pagan hand fasting too :-) All our family and friends are really excited about going to an 'alternative' wedding which is personal to us, and have said it sounds beautiful and very romantic. We are making our own handfasting cord with 6 pagan charms on the ends, I have pictures of them in my photos. How are your plans going? It would be good to chat and share ideas :-)
    Kath xxx
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    • NishaVyas88
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    I'm in the same boat as you- my h2b and I are having a handfasting as well. We're causing a bit of a stir because he's Protestant so we're having a multi-faith handfasting (it can be done- we have our HPS and Priest lined up).
    His family is perfectly fine with it (although they've always thought of me as a crazy hippy, in a loving way), it's my family that's been the problem. They're Hindu and they wanted to cram as many traditions in as possible- we've had to compromise that the reception be as Indian as they want, with the cultural traditions. But all religious stuff on their part is out, including the ceremony (believe me, this is very fair as they're not particularly religious, so to ask me to be is hypocritical).

    Anyway, I'm debating who to have participate in the ceremony, if any. My advice is to go with whoever is supportive of your faith. I wouldn't be offended to be a participant in another religious ceremony, so it should go both ways. Its not like we sacrifice goats or anything, right? lol!
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    • Katkin
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    Btw, I think it is so sad that your great grandad reacted the way he did - it will be his loss if he refuses to go :-( xxx
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    to be honest my plans are very basic still; the H2B was very under mummys thumb and she had him convinced that he wanted a church wedding despite him being an active circle member . . . *yawn* usual story. Yadadada, shes moved, i 've won HIM a chance to make a choice; this si the choice hes made and ive had .. . ooh, 24 hrs plan time? am so excited, i didnt sleep last night. at all. spent all on web, research, sourcing resources etc lolz.
    Didnt see your thread; i searched "Handfasting" as opposed to "Pagan" lolz shouldve tried both i guess, sorry Mods!
    we've made one decision; we want a 6 chord binding knot. And ive always known what i was doing re my flowers, even when i was in a church. <3 x
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    • Griff
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    :) sounds like you have everything planned so well hunni well done to you for defending your beliefs I have compromised on my wiccan wedding to accomodate my h2b so as not to negatively effect his family relationships. I believe he will still need his family support in the future as they are so beautifully close. I really want to have the blessing of the entire family and the way we have chosen seems to bring that positive support and love so we are happy :) xxxx
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    • NishaVyas88
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    The best part about a handfasting is that, since it's not a legally recognised ceremony (yet- with Druidism being recognised by the charitable foundations, it won't be long I hope), you're not bound by venues. So you can have your handfasting anywhere you like. Although you'd need to ask permission for parks and such.

    Once you've picked your high priestess/high priest, they can help you write the ceremony (we're meeting ours in March- so excited!). If you're not in a coven, try contacting Life Rites. They've been so helpful for me and my h2b (I'm a Solitary Eclectic).
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    Nisha; I totally get hypocrytical parents! the above mention MIL hadnt been inside a church for .. . . what, 8 year? then decideds that HER son HAS to be married in a christian church, or "it doesnt count" and all other kinds of male cow excrement. hooray, shes now living in France! i have my man back! whoop!
    Thing is, dont quite know what to do about my HPS&HP; we're both solitary, together, if that makes sence[?], as we have not been able to find a circle in our area :[ <3 x
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    Whaey! Snap! :D <3 x
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    • Griff
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    I understand you completely cacaca as I can only attend my circle when I return home as there is not one near my university that I can find.... :(
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    oh wait shouldve done this is one post. sorry. Erm, yeah;
    Found our venue we think. 98% sure; its a beautiful field next door to a stunning woods. Our first date was a walk in said woods, and our first moon rite was in said field. its going to be perfect :D
    Whats your location like? <3 x
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    • Katkin
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    Lol, don't worry - it isn't always easy to find what you are looking for :-) We are having a 4 ribbon cord, just need to practice how to make it now lol. We are having a 2 tier cake with a dragon on the top with it's tail wrapped round the cake, and a 2 nd dragon at the base!! My dress is black lace with purple accessories, and we will be jumping the broom and a sword. My friends are really excited as none of them have ever been to a hand fasting before. We are having the civil service legal bit 1st. After the two ceremonies we are having a hog roast, and have hired a rock band for the evening do. My h2b will perform one song (by metallica), on stage with the band. He is also writing music for me to walk down the aisle to. Xxx
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    • NishaVyas88
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    I know- my parents visit a Mandir once in a blue moon and they guilt trip me into having a Hindu wedding. Hasn't worked though- my h2b doesn't want one either so we're standing firm.

    Like I said, contact Life Rites (I'll post a link on your wall)- they're be more than happy to help out with a HPS/HP

    I've found finding a coven really difficult. Eventually I gave up and stayed Solitary :D
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    • Katkin
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    Our venue is at an old farmhouse that has been converted into a hotel. The old threshing barn, pig stys etc have been done up and it is very old and rustic looking - perfect for us. We are hoping to have the hand fasting outside in the courtyard area, but if the weather is bad it will be in the threshing barn :-)
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    i am so very very happy to found not only other Initiates, but other Bridal Initiates . . . esp' ones who are Solitary like us! makes me feel alot less of "freak" or whatever. Thank you, ladies for support, which im sure wont faulter :D
    B.B. To All <3 xx
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    katkin; sounds beautfil! have thought of raining problems; we want a big marquee sttyle thing, but of the Bedouin nature [google] cause theyre moraccan in influence and GORGEOUS on the inside. Its a purly visual deal with the tent. However, the furnishings on the inside are all low; low cushions, low tables; perfect for meditation and reading (have some mates who dabble in tarot and have offered, if they promise to practice before hand lolz) Am planning on trying to find a palm reader i can along with .. . . not as important as the HPS&HP but still! lolz BB<3 x
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    • greyarea
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    Some people may feel a tad uncomfortable attending rituals however in my experience these people are happy to stand back a bit and observe. I have attended hand fastings before and they were very nice and there were no problems although they weremt legally binding and were all done at beltane so it was a bit chilly
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    greyarea; have planned to do a legal cermony befoere the handfasting, so that its registered in law. will be doing legal bit is casual attire lolz <3 x
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    • greyarea
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    I just ment the ones i saw sorry some of the couples were already married and renewing vows while others were just temporary marriages
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    meant no disrepect was just saying :] <3 x
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    • Rags
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    Got lost reading this, I would need to put in a lot more research in order to comment.

    However I think from the brief bit of reading I have just done that it is a wonderful idea, especially if you are active in the circle. I would love to attend an alternative wedding, I too would research and want to be supportive of the couple declaring their attachment to each other in what ever way they wished of me.xx

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    • greyarea
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    Sorry if i came across female dog like hehe
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    Rags; there is alot to research here; if you did actually want to learn what we're jabbering about, i can send you a few useful websites.
    Thankyou for your comments, both of you.Blessed Be. <3 x
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    UPDATE;
    had a phone call from a company that has preist&priestesses all around the counrty that do handfastings for solitary members; We have three to choose from, somebodys going to ring me next week, the woman was lovly!
    she also said that becasue theyre trying to make the whole process accsessible it shouldnt cost more than £200 for them to do it, and that it could be as low as £120!!!!
    Package to include;
    - consultations for 12 months before the day, regular meetings & on-call phone disscussions
    - personailsed ceremony, written for us. Totally unique ceremnoy
    - help in choosing ceremony participants [summoner etc]
    - emotional assisitance throughout the day


    so 3XCiiT3D!! <3 X
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    • mitch2509
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    thats such a good price forall that !! (i think)




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    • greyarea
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    That sounds really good hun pleased for you
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    • 'ca'ca'ca
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    mitch; think about how much it costs to have a traditional chruch wedding, just for the registar, the vicar etc; good price, or what!? :D <3 x
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    • felicity.h
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    if im honest id love to witness a handfasting. Among other religious weddings. I must admit asian weddings look like so much fun. If long. Do what you like. If people wond go because of your religion/type of religious ceremony then there obviously not worthy of being there. x
 

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