Barbie: Did you actually read my post? It says at the end of the story "I know this isnt representative of all strippers"
I then went on to say "I suppose you're right though it is just a job. They couldve been like that if they were in other jobs."
So no I am not tarring them all with the same brush, I was merely commenting on my experiences with them.
CommentAuthorbarbie86
You're commenting on experiences with 2, with all due respect.. And saying they 'could have' been like that in other jobs kind of suggests that yeah, they could have, but you have a feeling their job plays a part (just the way you worded it). I guess I just thought your examples were kind of irrelevant, sorry.
CommentAuthorRockabilly chick
Just wanted to say I never meant to cause offence to anyone. I was only saying what had happened to us. People are allowed differences of opinion. People should be allowed to feel how they want about a naked woman rubbing themselves on their husband. Its entirely up to the individual. Personally its not what I want but if a woman doesnt mind then thats entirely their choice. :-)
CommentAuthorRockabilly chick
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well apologies for saying something irrelevent, like I say I was talking about small town strip clubs which I believe are entirely different and attract a different type of person.
CommentAuthorLittle Kettle
My H2B is having his stag the night before our wedding, in Vegas! I know the plan is generally go to a shooting range, eat, some drinks and a strip club, and to be honest, I'm fine with that. It's part and parcel of Vegas and I know that his BM won't be silly and push him to do anythign sill, and neither will any of his other friends. I think they're re-living their youth a bit as it's the second trip these guys will have done to Vegas (last time when they were at Uni, so a long time ago). I don't have a problem with it for 3 reasons: 1. I trust my man completely and even if a stripper did 'come onto' him, then I know he would deal with it in an appropriate manner 2. His friends are mature and are highly unlikely to goad him on and will look out for him 3. Strippers in Vegas work to a pretty high code of conduct, well the ones in the places that the Stag group are likely to visit anyway. H2B isn't interested in a private dance or anything like that, so I'm pretty secure in the knowledge that there will be no contact.
Like some have already said, it's a personal preference thing. I personally hate the idea of having a stripper at my Hen do, but each to their own. And at the end of the day, these girls are just trying to earn a living and if people are willing to pay for that service, then so be it.
Like a lot of people have already said, it sounds like the BM is just winding you up, and even if he isn't there is no way he could force your h2b to go into a strip club against his will. If he keeps mentioning it just keep saying "No" rather firmly and He'll give up on it in the end.
Me and mine aren't have stag/hen dos really, though steve and I have had a chat about going to a burlesque club together, I don't personally have a problem with people taking their clothes off for money, as long as it is their choice to do it and they enjoy their work I'm all for it, I just wouldn't do it myself, or go regularly to see something like that.
CommentAuthorSoon2bMrsS
just to let you all know right now that Gav has read the posts last night (obviously not the ones that came in later than like 11.30) and has told me some things in light of them. 1. That he is NOT lying to me about not wanting to go- now the people who are saying about the possibility of him lying may turn around and say oh well he's lying again but I know my man well enough to know when he is lying (he is well and truly awful!) and he was a bit hurt that people would put those things into my head. No it didn't get into my head that he was lying and no there was no croseed words between us over this which would make him lie for an easy life. He has told me the God's honest truth that he doesn't want to go. 2. He has also commented on how a previous post has made it sound like I don't let him have fun- this is blatently untrue and has said it is not his idea of fun. He would be absolutely mortified to be put in that position. 3. Neither of us have a problem with Adult films but we find that completely different to having a girl right there in front of you stripping.
Barbie86- petra said herself that she knew not all strippers are the same so it's not fair you saying that she is tarring everyone with the same brush...she was merely commenting on her own experiances. The whole thing about a "normal" girl setting out to bag the stag- it is a horrible thing to do on both parts (if something happened) and no you shouldn't be marrying that person if they did that to you. It is NOT ok for a woman to set out to do that...that is just sick and a horrible sl**ty thing to do to another human being...anybody with any sense of self worth or respect for another human being wouldn't do that and if you would or have done then shame on you. We would all like to think that every stripper abided by the rules but the fact is some of them don't and you do not know what type of stripper would end up dancing on your man. As I have said before I would not let a fully clothed woman in a normal club give him a lap dance so why would I be ok with a scantily clad stripper do it? And Gav would not let a normal girl dance up against him so he has said he is rather confused as to why he would pay or let someone else pay for a stripper to do it. There is no sense to it in our opinion. Oh yeah and while I'm at it this whole "what you don't know won't hurt you" stuff is ridiculous. How can you build a relationship on that?! In my experiance all lies come out and they hurt more than they would've done if they would've told you the truth in the first place. You then got to accept your partner is a liar and it is very hard to trust them again. To sum up... GAVIN DOES NOT WANT TO GO TO A STRIP CLUB AND NEVER HAS DONE HE WOULD BE OVERLY UNCOMFORTABLE AND HE DOES NOT FIND THAT FUN. I'm sorry to use capitals but I feel like people are ignoring the fact that he doesn't like them and he isn't lying! Bah rant over
CommentAuthorSoon2bMrsS
wow that was a long one!
CommentAuthorRockabilly chick
:-) Well said
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CommentAuthorSoon2bMrsS
lol thanks petra xxx
CommentAuthorbarbie86
Wow, calm down!
In my experience men can and often do lie about these things esp when they know their partner is so against it. I never said that is what your OH is doing, I don't know him, and obviously not all men like strip clubs etc (in fact most men I know don't like them and think they're a bit cheap; but they're not against them and would definitely go to one as a laugh with mates or on a stag do). But the fact is if a man was taken to one on his stag night, 9 times out of 10 he won't say no, he'll go along with it, and the bride won't get to hear about it; IMPO there's no harm in that.
I've seen so many women adament their men would never watch adult films etc, only to then find out they only pretended to hate it to save an argument. And from a male perspective I can see why they'd lie: it saves a lot of needless hassle and argument.
Again, I'm not saying your OH is lying, just pointing out that a lot of men do. I find it interesting that it's often those who are really against it whose OHs seem to hate it too, whereas those who don't care seem to have OHs who will admit that they've been to a strip club, that they watch certain things, etc: maybe they're just compatible on every level, or maybe there's more to it and in the second instance, they know they can be honest without it escalating into an argument.
CommentAuthortimpson123
I like the point that Gav made about he wouldn't let a normal girl in club do it so why would he pay for it. For me that just sums it up, it's not ok just cos its a job to the stripper.
There are plenty of desperate single men out there for them to get their money off.
CommentAuthorSoon2bMrsS
*SIGH* I'm not saying they should be eradicated or anything just saying they are not for us. I never expressed my feelings about strip clubs before I asked him and he said he wouldn't want to go there and how it was stressing him out that his BM kept on and on at him. Yes men do lie for an easier life and as I have said before I don't have a problem with adult films and am not ignorant enough to think that he doesn't watch them. Every man I have known has watched it. I don't have a problem with Gav viewing it as long as it's not in place of me (i.e. if I am out of action or not there it is fine). Gav knows he can be honest with me and in actual fact will tell me something even if we disagree on it. This is how I know I can trust him to give me an honest opinion. Barbie I just didn't like the way you were making out petra was saying something that she clearly did not. Lol Mandy see sometimes men do talk sense =p x
CommentAuthorbarbie86
If my OH was paying for a lap dance that would be different, as that IMO IS similar to say, buying a girl in a club a drink and chatting her up; not cheating, but crossing a line. But if his friends bought him one, I don't have an issue with it; it's just a bit of fun. Given this discussion is about stag do's, we're talking the groom's mates buying him a dance as a joke, to humiliate him; that's all it comes down to at the end of the day. We're not as far as I was aware discussing men who frequently visit strip clubs alone to pay for private dances, which I'm pretty sure even those of us who have no issue with strip clubs in general, or on 'special occasions', would draw the line at.
CommentAuthorbarbie86
I just felt her comments were a bit unnecessary, and irrelevant to the discussion. So she knows two strippers, one who shouted to her OH, and one who liked wild parties? I didn't understand the connection with stripping (ie the implication that because she's met 2 strippers who weren't particularly nice people all strippers are like that; as I said, I know 3 students who are morons, does that mean all students are? No), or the relevance to the debate.. If she'd used to work as a stripper and knew several dozen, all who were horrible peoplem and who tried to bait men, then fair enough, but I just didn't really understand the comments in the context..
CommentAuthortimpson123
I just don't get what the laugh is in going to a strip club, is it like a little boy shouting boobies at the girls getting changed at school? and his mate thinking its hilarious. Men are so silly lol
CommentAuthormym72
I don't think they do it 'for a laugh' mandy. **x for a man is purely physical and visual. They can sit in a nightclub all night and eye up women - but there's a limit (usually what they are wearing lol). Whereas in a strip club they can take it one step further and actually see the bits most women have covered lol. It's not being unfaithful because they're not cheating, or touching this person - or even getting her number and making arrangements to see them again. As for the girls, it's just business. They get the last laugh (and the biggest wad of cash) at the end of the night.
And tbh it's only like women going to see strippers. The good looking, fit guys are probably ok to look at in the pub - but again it's taking it just one step further with a stripper as they get to see just that bit more. And it's exactly the same as the men - no cheating going on, just a bit of fun then home to their partners.
I agree with some of the comments about 'normal' women that come onto men that are taken, especially when they know if (as in stag nights). You can't blame the men 100% (but they're definitely not without blame) - but the dirty little mingers that do this are definitely scum. No woman with conscience would do that to another woman.
CommentAuthorMrs*Maria*Louise
i wouldn't be happy with my h2b going to a strip club or having a stripper, and i have made this clear to him as it would upset me and i just wouldnt be happy with it he has me at home to look at whenever he wants so he dont need some woman jiggling her bits at him, as i wouldnt be having a stripper as i just dont see the point, i will say im a bit worried about h2b's stag do as he has strayed before and his bm is a right pill**k and he has strayed a million times so will make it clear no funny business!! xx
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CommentAuthorPaula
These are just my views but strippers are just for entertainment purposes and I think it is an individual choice as to whether they go or not, people often find that BM and MOH make comments about strippers with no intention of hiring one. Strippers are people like you and me trying to earn a living, men will look at other women whether it be in a strip club, bar or street as women look at men often with no meaning or intention of touching, its simple just life. I am sure that any man who does not want to attend a strip club has the ability to say NO x
CommentAuthorKaz
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CommentAuthorEnny
When i irst got together with h2b I knew he wouldnt turn down going to a strip club... as he has been b4 with mates on weekend away with his mates... as far as I know from his site his ex got angry at him forbit him to do so ... he went away with his lads what happened he told her to not lie... and she got mad... so therefore u never can make it right really... since he has been with me i do know he has been to a stripclub yes... but i know it happened on his lads holiday 1week magaluf... i was more concerned about his health being to drunk all the time and rather some random girls would try it on with him... than being concerned that he goes to a stripclub and i know he has been in one there ... it doesnt bother me as he doesnt do it every night/day... also i do know he would not say no to it on his stag and why shall i stand there and tell him its not ok... he would even wanna do it more so therefore if he wants a stripper for his stag fine if he doesnt fine as well :) even when we went on holidays to portugal we nearly went in to one of those night clubs as i just wanted to see for myself but cant remember why we didnt at the end...
of course every man is different in his view there are some who love it, some who would hate it and some who dont care but wont mind it :) i personally wouldnt want a male stripper for my hen do, as for my experience they are just not my type i dont find them attractive ...or anything... have had my experience when i was 18... have been watching them getting undressed ... and doing their show... it was mostlikely they picked one girl out of all and took them on the dancefloor its fun till a certain point but dont think i would have found it so funny if i would of been on of those girls :) so i'm gonna let my moh know no male stripper for my hen do :) for my h2b i will find out plans from his bm regarding stag... :) just to know :)
I do hope for you that your h2b's best man is only trying to wind u up!!! xxx
CommentAuthorstarlighthunny
My H2B recently went on a stag do with his best friend and he was his BM so it was up to him to organise things. I was also goin on his future fiances Hen do to as we are close too. He kept trying to wind me up saying that he was going to take him into a strip club " fine I said" lol... it doesnt bother me. We both went to the hen and stag parties on the same weekend. In the end they never went to a strip club, but were gutted to find out that we had organised a stripper for the hen lol ( as we know she would like one). Everyone is different, people will like them, people dont... personal preference.
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CommentAuthorEnny
oh well i must say even i dont want them for my hen ... but if my friends and moh gonna arrange it not going to be angry with them as i think its a joke and just for fun... so i would nt care as much even knowing if i organize it myself i will know there wont be a stripper :D only spa and weekend away :)
CommentAuthorstarlighthunny
Im not that fussed If I have one or not.... if I get one then fair enough.If I dont.. its no great loss. We just knew that this hen wanted one ( well she dropped hints and was totally shocked when one actually turned up!) lol :D
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CommentAuthorEnny
lol :D oh well if u do want it fair enough isnt every men/women cup of tea :D
CommentAuthortimpson123
I think male strippers are awful! I would rather watch a bunch of women strippers lol. There is nothing attractive about men wiggling their bits in my face lol.
CommentAuthorPaula
I wouldnt be bothered either way its just a bit of fun x
CommentAuthornicole85
Wow this thread has got rather heated lol.
I hate everything about strippers male & female, my ex worked as security in a strip club & i know all the stories of what went on during private dances & even after. So if anyone wants to call their marriage off because their h2b has done something that they aint happy with then thats their choice. No-one else should be critising that!!!!
As for male strippers, YUCK!!!!!
Why the hell you would want some other guys bits dangling in your face is beyond me but hey ho, each to their own & all that jazz
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CommentAuthortimpson123
That's what i was saying earlier in the thread. I don't understand what is fun about it and therefore don't understand the argument that some men go just for a laugh. I can think of much more fun things to do on a hen stag do.
CommentAuthornicole85
Yeah im the same mandy, my h2b doesnt like strip clubs/strippers & i THAT AINT A LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But i know that alot of his friends will want to go to one or get him one, i have told him though if it happens then there aint a wedding
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CommentAuthorSoon2bMrsS
lol nicole I was gonna post something similar to what you said (it was a looooot looooonger) but when I pressed post it logged me out and then I thought grrr I've had enough. I only wanted to know how I should go about making it clear to BM that H2B didn't want a stripper (since H2B obviously wasn't getting through to him) I have always been more worried about H2B not having fun coz he has said (very sincerly) that a stripper would wreck his night. I have like I have just been repeating myself over and over and some people just don't listen!!! I am not a control freak which I have felt I have been made out to be...I want him to go out and have fun he just don't want fun in that way! And that ain't on me. I have said a million times that it's each to there own and people are allowed to have their own opinions but don't critisize each other over them! I do not like strip clubs. H2B does not like strip clubs. Some other people do not like strip clubs. Some people do. My H2B isn't lying. If you have that problem in your own relationship don't shove it onto me. BM seems to have got the message now. Thanks to everyone who was helpful.
CommentAuthorlulustar
Hi Ladies, Im new to this site so hi. NOW DONT GET ME STARTED ON STRIPPERS, I live in New Zealand but am from Birmingham, we fly back next month to get married so are having 2 stag and hens nights, one here in NZ and one in the UK, of course my partners friends think he needs strippers and Im not ok with this AT ALL, his friends have a wild day/night planned so me and my partner have fallen out this week, we didnt speak for 3 days which is a real long time for us, my partner realised how much it was hurting me and has asked out of respect for me if there is no strippers at all, (he is a superstar) so now im just waitng to see if they value his word, his stag do is in 3 weeks so watch this space.xxxxx that felt good to vent, grrrrrr
CommentAuthortimpson123
Yeah i told H2B all about this thread and he started to see it from my point of view, he doesn't care either way its not something he wants as such he just doesn't want it to be an issue after so after i told him that it would be he has promised to just say no lets do something else if it gets brought up.
I'm not a prude, we have very experimental i.e threesomes and we even tried a bit of swinging very early on in our relationship so i hardly think he has it bad. It's the thought of it being behind my back that makes me mental. i hate being made a fool out of and i would feel like a complete mug if I said it was ok for him to go and get aroused by some other girl.
CommentAuthorRockabilly chick
Barbie, if my comments were so irrelevent then what was the relevence of your comments? The question at the beggining of the thread was "Any tips on how to handle this situation" ie: How would you deal with your H2B best man joking about it. I gave an answer in my first post and then went on to have a discussion. Your post was simply sayin your opinion on why woman shouldnt get jealous over strippers. Nowhere did you offer advice. So therefore your post was more irrelevnt than mine in context of the original post. You obviously didnt like what I said and decided to have a go at me. For the last time, I was merely talking about my experiences and I have as much right to comment on this as you do. Thank you.
CommentAuthorPaula
Hello Again Strippers are fun for people who do not find them offensive, I feel I am open minded and can see the entertainment value and fun behind them but can also see how people may dislike them. Personally I dont like the idea of my h2b eyeing up other women but if I knew he was going to see/have a stripper on his stag night I wouldnt be bothered although if he was spending loads of money every month or week in strip bars I would be having words. If my man didnt want a stripper on his stag night I would tell him to go round and have a chat with his mate and explain why, but personally I would feel it wasnt my place to say anything as his mates would think it was me not wanting him to have one and not him not wanting one, so my advice would be your h2b needs to make it clear to his mates and hope they listen, strippers only last a few minutes so even if they got one it would ruin his whole night anyway, try not to worry to much hun x
CommentAuthorKaz
The only problem I'd encounter with a stripper touching my H2B on his stag, is having to re-organise the wedding for when he got out of prison! Last time he went to a strip club he got kicked out by complaining about naked women putting dandruff in his beer, lmao xx
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CommentAuthorlulustar
Hi again, Ive just been reading back over the posts, wowthe forum is completly split in half, every couple is so different, for me if I was completly honest the whole stripper thing is because of my body insecurities (having my two beautiful boys ruined me) my partner tell me im silly, I have lots of stripper friends who really dont care for the guys they are dancing for but they are so beautiful with amazing bodies grrrrr, thats my problem, I would hate my man picking one that was better then me
CommentAuthorSteffie
My H2B is gonna have strippers and lap dancers and I say Go 4 it mate!!! I don't care, I trust Ant and I hope to have a couple of gentlemen entertainers at mine (as I've never seen a stripper before), so if I was to say No to him I would be the biggest hypocrit in the world!!
CommentAuthorOfficialMrsField
My OH had his stag night last weekend - ended up in a lap dancing bar where his best man & my dad paid for 3 strippers to dance around him on the stage in front of the whole club...lol...I think it's funny!
Paul told me all about it the next day...on the other hand- my dad hadn't told my mam he'd been to the club - I filled her in on that..hahaha!!!xx
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