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    • xxhan87xx
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    i would to protect his and his brothers flat they owned before we met but everything since we were together would have to be left out of it x

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    • CommentAuthorSweetchilli
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    Anyone else having one of these drawn up?
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    • millz090
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    Nope, we meet when we were 17 and 19 and done everything together so the house is a joint mortgage, we earn similar amounts of money and share everything equally so no need but understand why people do.

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    • CommentAuthorSweetchilli
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    I am having one. I own a house and 3 flats with no mortgages and h2b moved in with me with only his car and clothes. I have two boys to a previous relationship. My properties are my retirement fund as I couldn't live off a state pension when I retire and they are also my boys inheritance. In Scotland a pre nuptial is recognised in a court of law but I don't think they are recognised in England, I may be wrong? There also seems to be a big difference in lawyers fees as mine has only cost me £300.
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    • millz090
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    I think if you have children involved then definitly.

    My mum re-married 3 years ago and they had a pre-nup drawn up as my mum owns 2 houses and they were mums retirement and my inheritance and my step-dad had a house too and that was his childrens inheritance so a good idea as saves arguements down the line.

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    • MrsKisywisy
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    we won't have one, but i understand why some people do.

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    • Stevie_Dee
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    When we met I had just sold my home and he had 2 houses, 1 which is a holiday home. He still has the holiday home but all the money from his house and mine went into buying the house we are in now. I have offered a few times to have a pre nup, that if the unthinkable ever did happen he has sole right to the holiday home and our home is split 50/50. He won't have one though as far as he's concerned the holiday home will go to our boys in the future regardless.

    Edit to add - We both have the same mind set that our main aim is to make sure the kids will be provided for in the future.

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    • EcoFreak
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    As we're still students at the moment so have no real assets large enough to make one worth it yet we probably will have one. I brought it up because his family owns a farm & land which at some point he'll inherit, while my family have a lot of shares which I'll inherit: two very different things. I think they're a smart idea, people get very mean during a divorce and I'd hate that to happen to us if *god forbid* we broke up. Apparently the law on them changed recently so now they're recognised by the courts so to me it seems a worthwhile spend. We shall see. Xx




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    • OWB
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    We won't be having one, although I did ask Dan as he put the deposit down on the house, which at the moment is his, however once married will become ours. He also stands to inherit his parents home and holiday home, whilst I stand to inherit zilch. He told me not to be silly.

    When we first moved in together it was on the agreement that should we split up I'd move out with nothing, this is still the case - technically I guess I'm his lodger. I even had to sign a piece of paper in front of a solicitor to say so. Even when we're married I'm happy to walk away, however once children are involved I will do anything i have to in order to ensure they have the best upbringing possible. You hope that if a break up does happen it can all be amicable for children, but you so often hear otherwise.

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    • JennaLouise
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    I'm in the same boat as OWB. I moved in with h2b, but the flat is in negative equity.

    A pre-nup was mentioned on Eastenders last week, and h2b said 'you've got to sign one of them' (joking), I said you can keep your negative equity! Lol.

    So, we won't bother with one, but I can totally see why people do x
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    • Jill
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    I moved into h2b's house and we've both bought his parents home while they're still in the house. We have paperwork in place for his parents sake confirming that they're entitled to live in the house as long as they want to - nothing personal about it, his parents know a couple who's son bought their house and then put them out of it, horrible git! x

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    • GabyS
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    I told my partner id sign one as his ex wife left the marrige with 10k after 18 months after she cheated on him.... I want him to know I want him for him not his money but he didnt say I have too x


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    • hello-kitty
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    see i am contemplating one only because in the highly unlikely event that we divorce i am not letting my house (which i own outright with no mortgage thanks to my late mother) or my inheritence that she tried so hard to give me after everything go to someone else. not that i think we're gonna split but i would much rather keep my house and 50k :-)

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    • Antonia9
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    i totally agree with pre nups, and i think that if you have anything that you had before you were married then you should be protected, i think its very clever and very wise. Yes we all would like to think that we will be married forever and ever amen, but in a realistic world most marriages now end in divorce, which is very sad especially as we are all on cloud 9 preparing for our forthcoming weddings. The truth is, married life is no longer like it was when our grandparents were about and when people really worked at the marriages, people give up to easily. Its very sad statistics but true. If you have anything worth holding on to whether it be money, assets, inherited items, then protect them - its insurance at the end of the day. As someone else said you take insurance out on car, homes, belongings - not because you think your going to get broken in to, fire etc... but because it COULD happen. Its exactly the same.

    H2B and i wont be having a prenup exactly, but we both earn very good money and had savings before we got together, our savings are in different accounts and thats our own money. Since we got engaged we now have a joint account and what we have together now is ours, but what we had in the bank before is our back up fund. HIs money is his and mine is mine

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    • GabyS
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    i agree Antonia... at the end of the day, we marry are partners for love not money and a pre nup shows that x

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    • Antonia9
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    exactly! i personally would question anyone that wouldnt sign one. My h2b says to me that im in charge of the money now that we are getting married, but i say to him its yours as well at the end of the day. Ive told him if anything happened between us then id walk away with what i had and him the same, as long as any future children were taken care of thats all that matters to me.

    Unless he cheated on me - then id take him to the cleaners ;0) lol i say this to him but not sure if i would, think id be too disgusted! x

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    • GabyS
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    haha thats what i say to mine... to make sure he thinks twice about cheating lol x

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    • Antonia9
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    this is true, nothing would gut my h2b more than to see me selling or chucking out the window all of his marvel collector figurines lol - i know this would be enough to ever scare him from straying x

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    we haven't signed one but we have discussed what would happen if we split we own 4 property's between us 2 mortgage free and a good portion of that is money that is for my children's futures as it was money from losing there father. i know h2b wouldn't touch anything that was mine before we married as i wouldn't want anything of his as long as i get my money back that i have invest in the new property i will be happy. h2b ex tired to take him to the cleaners when they split she contributed nothing to the home even though she had a god job and had lots of spare money she spent it on herself and didn't pay a penny to the bills in the 8 years they were together he then gave her £1000s when they split as she had nothing.
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    • Antonia9
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    behind every man is a woman that treated him like @#!*, no wonder some are like closed books, but same goes for the other way around. H2B and i are both non materialistic at all, if we've got it people can have it - although he is a bit softer than me ;0)

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    • GabyS
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    same here... mind you we spend our money like its burning holes in our pockets... we're going to Dubai in May and we're meant to be saving lol... oh well live for today hey lol x

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    • Antonia9
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    we do sometimes, but i think we work hard for it so thats our business if we wanna spend it like its going out of fashion! Have you been to Dubai before GabyS? i love Dubai, definately one of my favourite cities. xx

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    • GabyS
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    No never been but I've always wanted to go... this for me is a once in a life time opportunity.. we're staying in a five star hilton hotel all inclusive with virgin... I'm so excited cause I've never been on a holiday l;ike this before.
    However i'll probably get arrested for kissing knowing my luck lol. When did you go to Dubai? x

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    • Antonia9
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    i go to Dubai every 3 months, h2b and i both work in afghanistan for NATO so we stop off in dubai on the way there and on the way back. Definately check out Dubai Mall but keep a day aside for it because it its HUGE! Jumeriah Beach is absolutely stunning, and the water park wild wadi is amazing too. Beautiful restaurants, very clean, safe. I dont always travel through with h2b and im quite happy to go around by myself x

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    • GabyS
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    Wow must be amazing to go that often.. i will defo go to the mall cause i love to shop and i love water parks they keep me entertained all day lol... once I've been i'll report back and let you know how i get on x

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    • Antonia9
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    definately! you will love it! :0) x also go to dubai marina, some of the best restaurants ever! x

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    • GabyS
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    yes i will defo check it out i love a good nosh... great to have some tips on where to go thank you x

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    • Antonia9
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    your welcome, just realised you are going in May, i will be passing through Dubai then, im going on leave back to the UK on the 8th May, cannot wait! :0) x

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    • GabyS
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    Are you in Afghanistan now then? How long have you been there? Im going to dubai on the 20th i think... id have to check with my partner causes he has made all the arrangements.

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    • Antonia9
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    yes i am, im out here 9 months out of a year, hence why i started planning my wedding early. Ive pretty much planned majority out here with the limited internet we get then finalise details when i get back to the UK. Ive been out here for 14months now x

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    • Unknown
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    we were going to but never got round to it.

    he owns the flat we are in and i have inheritance in my dads house in spain but we have said that if anything did happen then we wont take anything from each other.

    we are about to buy a bigger place though and i will be going on the mortage but we will get something drawn up to say that although we pay 50/50 he has £40k in the house more than me x




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    • GabyS
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    I watch a documentary on the soldiers out there.. Your brave.. All credit to you. xx

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    • Ha_x3
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    I understand why people go for pre-nuptual agreements but surely you should trust your partners etc if Sam asked this of me i would be really hurt

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    • GabyS
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    Yerh I agree with that I would feel hurt too but I offered because his last wife left after 18 months of marrage taking 10k and I didnt want him to ever think I would do what she did cause if I was in his situation id have my guard up x

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    • EcoFreak
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    When it comes to divorce, people just don't seem to act like themselves most of the time. Under normal circumstances I'm sure everyone trusts their partner, or you wouldn't be marrying them! But a divorce isn't a normal circumstance and it just seems to get so messy and vindictive. IMO a prenup would get it over & sorted while minismising the nastiness/awkwardness, without anyone getting screwed over - it's definitely a decision for your head not your heart Xx




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    • mizzkt
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    Isnt a pre Nuptial Agreement a sign you dont trust each other? Or your planning for divorce already?!
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    • Kate_B
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    We're about to buy our first house together and all the money for the house and wedding is saved up between us, so we will own everything together... We dont see the need to get a pre-nup xx
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    • Antonia9
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    mizzkt no it isnt, its insurance incase anything happens

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    • GabyS
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    Id be more worried it someone wasnt prepared to sign one x

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    • Antonia9
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    ditto x

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    i don't think its about not trusting someone i trust my h2b 100% but i have seen what devoice can do to people it seems to send some normal level head ppl in to crazy monsters and some people will do anything to hurt the other person especially if they have hurt them. unfortunately life isn't predictable and neither is the future and even the most loving and stable relationship can crumble in the blink of an eye if everything in the relationship was bought 50/50 then its ok but if one as more then the other then i think it can be best to protect what you want to keep as your just in case i know i wouldn't want to give my children's inhabitance away in a divorce. but saying that we haven't made one but there is a promise note in our wills at the solicitors saying in the event of death or the brake down of our relationship h2b has to repay me all of the money i have lent him to purchase his mum and dads property.
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    • EcoFreak
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    Krissy :)

    GabyS - me too.

    I think Hollywood movies / tabloid papers have given a warped view of pre-nups, that's why so many feel they're a bad thing Xx




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    • Ha_x3
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    My H2B has just found out he is inheritting quite alot of money, and we still dont see the need for having a pre-nup..
    we trust each other completely

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    • Stevie_Dee
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    Its quite concerning to say that some people would generalise a refusal to sign a pre nup as worrying.
    I think there would be MANY situations in which a refusal to sign a pre nup would be deemed the right thing to do.

    It is obvious if you are someone like Paul McCartney, with a previoous marriage, kids and vast wealth behind him, then a refusal to sign by future spouses would be seen as wrrying.

    Imagine though if you are a young couple very much in love both with no assets. Yet 1 partner was one day to inherit their family's home or assets. Should the other partner sign away every right to any claim against the other persons future assets? Bearing in mind an inheritance may be many years into the future, in which time children may be involved, the none inheriting partner may have sacrificed a career to take care of the children and home. Or within that time they have both contributed financially together in other ways.

    There are many more examples where I think a partner would be well within their rights to refuse to sign a pre nuptial agreement...whether the marriage continues without a pre nup would be down to how strong their love and trust is for one another and NOT down to finances.

    I think it would be wrong to blanket condemn every case of refusal to sign a pre nup as worrying.

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    • Ha_x3
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    • CommentAuthorSweetchilli
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    I love my h2b with all my heart but my 2 boys will always come first and he knows this. I trust him 100% but I still need to protect my future in case we did decide to split up. What I have I am happy to share with him as a couple but if we part, I will be keeping my properties as I paid for them out right 6 years before we got back together. This may sound strange to some but as a mother my boys come first and always will and I will make sure they both have a good start in life and that me and h2b can have a happy retirement together.
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    • OWB
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    I think Pre-nups are the same as every other aspect of your marriage - individual to you. Would I sign one, yes. Do I feel the need to, no.

    As you say Stevie-Dee, it is completely dependent on the circumstance and the relationship. It you're Paul McCartney then i do think it's silly not to, however for 'normal' people I think it's something that you need to work out between the two of you.

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    • xxRosiexx
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    I think I'm a bit old fashioned in in my view of marriage, I can't imagine thinking of getting divorced before you're even married and if I thought that way I think I would be questioning why I was getting married! If I didn't believe that this is the man I want to be with for the rest of our lives then why vow to!
    On the other hand I can see why people do sign pre-nups as you never know what's going to happen in the future,I just don't think it is for me.

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    • Jill
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    Some great points, I love a good debate

    Sweetchilli I think yours is the perfect reason for a pre-nup. When kids from a previous relationship are involved especially, you've built up some financial stability for you and the kids so of course you want to protect it, it's not just you that could be losing out.

    Stevie_Dee's point is more directed I think at couples starting out. As I've already said we're not having one. H2b has more financial input, I've lived here for 4 yrs now but we have had our son before marriage, I went part time and need to try to work my hours round childcare - necessity and personal choice but it was something we agreed between us and it worked for us. As for h2bs parents house, he couldnt have done it on his own without my input too. It definitely changes things when kids are involved, esp when the woman (9 times out of 10) is the one that has to sacrifice their career x

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