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    • claire
      CommentAuthorclaire
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    Hi

    I am thinking of getting married at Stockbrook next yr in the spring time. It seems expensive - others on here seem to be saying its quite good value. Havent looked at too many places so i am not sure whats the norm.

    we have 200 days guests so it is a lot which is making it expensive.

    Can anyone help by letting me know roughly what they are paying per head and what it includes? we are having the wedding breakfast (3 courses), champage on arrival and for the toast, and 1/2 bottle of wine per person.

    want to make sure we are not being ripped off as its all sooooo expensive!

    Also would love to hear of anyones positive or not so positive feedback re stockbrook.

    Thanks so much!! Claire.
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    • barbie86
      CommentAuthorbarbie86
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    Just a general tip, but I found it quite hard pricing up venues until I drew up a spreadsheet; I have a separate sheet for each venue we've looked at, and in this I've included things like room hire, ceremony costs, registrar's fees, wedding package prices, or, if they don't do packages, cost of the wedding breakfast, wine, champagne toast, evening buffet, cost of DJ, flowers, photography etc. Because some venues include things like chair covers, sashes, flowers, DJ, buffet etc, they can at first glance look expensive, but when you start pricing up others they actually come out pretty cheap. It sets everything out in black and white so you can see exactly what you're getting for your money, and can easily compare it to another venue.

    Having looked at a fair few venues in the Berks/Bucks/London area, most are coming out at similar prices, of around £100 pp for a basic package (canapes, welcome drink, 3 course breakfast, 1/2 bottle wine, champagne toast) and around £15 pp for the evening buffet. We're having a small wedding (43 day-time guests; 90 evening guests), and most are costing out at approx £8-10k for the venue hire, ceremony, food, drinks, and money behind the bar. As you're looking at 200 guests, personally I'd say that about £20k would be cheap, and anything under £25k reasonable. But obv I don't know the venue and how much they charge; some venues I've looked at charge £200 pp for a package...
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    • Kaya
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    We're paying £3500 ish for venue hire, then £65 per head for meal and drinks package x

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    • XLittleMissMe!X
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    I'm paying £56 per head as I get 20% off but it is usually £70 per head then its £15 per person for the evening buffet. Are you sure that you need 200 people there? Not being funny but how often do you see these people and how close are they to you? The reason I'm saying this is because do you really want to pay them kind of prices for each person if you only ever see them once in a blue moon or you don't like them? We cut our list down no end by inviting only people we have seen in the last year or those that we like and it saved us ££££££££ and also means that it is more personal to us. You could always have more people on the evening so those that you hardly see just come on the night time when it doesn't cost you so much to have them there. I personally wouldn't pay out that much just to have people I work with there etc unless they are personal friends.




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    • XLittleMissMe!X
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    Oh sorry forgot to say the £56 + £15 for the evening per person includes a three course meal, two drinks with dinner, toast, reception drink, tea, coffee chocs. It then also covers our venue flowers, room for the night, red carpet and toastmaster, DJ, canapes and cake stand with engraved knife.




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    • Kaya
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    I was thinking that 200 sounded a little excessive too Jo!

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    • claire
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    thanks girls thats alll really helpful - barbie based on what youre saying its ok at about £20k. i am gonna negotiate to have the chair covers etc included to make it a bit better. just seems crazy to spend all that in one day!
    yes i know re the numbers - my parents are irish and I have a ridiculously large family - the essex irish mafia as my fiance calls them! its a big thing to my parents and they are contributing so going with it!

    x
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    • Kaya
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    The venue might not have chair covers, so may not be able to negotiate them into it, I'd try negotiating a discount instead if I was you x

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    • XLittleMissMe!X
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    One of the points that you can raise with them is that most weddings that book with them usually only bring about 100 people with them so the fact that you are bringing double means that their bar takings will be up etc giving them more profit if you use their venue as very few and few between would be booking a wedding on that scale. You can then say due to the above you their takings will be higher than normal on all fronts so they should have room to negotiate. If they don't get hold of their head office number and speak to them telling them how you tried to negotiate with the venue but they wouldn't budge and see if they will do it from there. I'm sure most would though as they want to get the revenue in and that is a good way of getting it in one wedding event.




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    • Vicky
      CommentAuthorVicky
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    My venue will not budge on anything they know they have a fabulous location and seem to think they can charge what they want..
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    • Unknown
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    i think the average is between £70-£100. that is what most venues charged that i looked at. Also a lot of venues offered different prices packages based on your budget xx




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    • barbie86
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    claire: are you getting buffet as well for that cost? Def agree with the others that you can haggle, as it's a very large wedding so their income will be way higher than normal on profit from the buffet and wedding breakfast alone, let alone the money that will be spent behind the bar. Some won't budge, but I've found in most cases there is some room for negotiation so it's worth a try.
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    • treeplanner29
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    I am a wedding planner and i have done a wedding at stock brook, they are normal good at negoiating a price, the wedding i did was last year, we got dow from £70 a head to £50, Stock was one of the only places in essex that didnt changer a venue hire if you could gauarantee over a certian amount would be spent behind the bar and we a large amount of people i am sure they will be weilling to negoiate price. Would also say its a amazing venue. good luck. x
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    • xbeckix88
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    Barbie86 - I love your idea of using a spread sheet! I have loads of diff emails from venues with prices annoying having to faff between them, would be handy to put them all in one place to compare!
 

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