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    • joey86
      CommentAuthorjoey86
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    So as my fellow 2013ers know, me and h2b have been hunting for a venue, yet again. There is now not a venue in South East London I don't know about lol.

    Anyway... We're down to three venues, each with their pros and cons and will hopefully decide soon. However, do have a bit of a problem with one. We don't want to do a 3 course sit down meal, but this venue offers loads of different buffets (mix of hot and cold fork and finger) which is exactly what we want to do for our day guests as we're having a late afternoon ceremony. Venue is quite happy to do this as stated in their brochure, but the minimum they do that for is 80. Fine, we've looked the price and that's all well and good and in our budget.

    Problem is, we're having a registry office ceremony and the nearest registry office only holds 60 people. Venue itself isn't licensed for weddings, so we don't have the option to do everything in one place. There is another venue within the same park that is licensed but they want £1200 just to hire the room for the ceremony, so completely out of the question (and budget!). My question is, if I go back to this venue and explain the situation, do you think they might a) let us just have the 60 people and not charge us for 80 (unlikely I know) b) charge us a supplement fee, but not as much as for an extra 20 people or c) charge us for 80 but give us something extra for the extra money we will be paying despite the fact there won't be an extra 20 meals.

    This venue is just lovely and this is one of the major problems with it. If we could have 80 people, we would, no questions asked, but we just can't. There is another registry office that we could use, but it's miles away and would be a nightmare to travel from there to this venue. Any advice, please??

    Thanks! x
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    • pennieb-MrsRiley
      CommentAuthorpennieb-MrsRiley
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    Another option for you to consider, and something my brother and his wife did when they got married; ask more people along to the reception than to the wedding itself. They could only seat around 40 or so at the registry office, but the reception was held for twice that number, and people were quite accepting of the fact that it was only closer family members to the wedding itself x

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    • Gazza 122
      CommentAuthorGazza 122
     
    Not sure about advice, but our situation is similar, although we are having the civil ceremony there as it was easier. We have a package which includes 50 people..then a minimum number of 80 guests! bit silly really...surely they should must make a package for the 80 people and have done....but thats how they make more money out of us! I asked our venue what would happen if we only had, lets say 70 people, and we were told we had to pay for the full 80.
    Can you have any people standing, or have a whole ceremony with standing only? like i said just thoughts? is the capacity for space or fire regulations?
    All you can do at this stage, is ask your venue what you have just asked us here and see what they say, at least then you can sit down with your H2B and discuss your options as you know them, rather that what if's and but's.
    If it is the same as us and you have to pay for the full 80 (even if you dont have them) i would, either look for another venue completely....or find another 20 people so your money dont go to waste.

    Let us know how you get on hun x




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    • joey86
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    Kev's Angel - that is crazy!

    I did think (As I was typing the post lol) that we could have the 60 at the ceremony and then an extra 20 for the meal, but I'm not sure. Most of our friends and family are already having to travel quite a way and I don't think it's fair on them to ask them just to come for the reception part (we've already increased our day guest list because of this - I have friends from uni who I would love to be there but they live half away across the country and I doubt they would come just for the reception, even if they were included for the main meal part too - which I can understand! If they're travelling four hours+ they probably would like to see the ceremony too lol!). It's just so frustrating. I will email the venue tomorrow about it and see what they say.

    Registry office number is 55 sitting and 5 standing so I don't think we can get anymore in there lol. I will have a look and see if I can find another registry office, but I'm not getting my hopes up. I guess we could see if we could find another venue licensed for weddings for a bigger number and for a reasonable price, but then the price shoots up even more with the registrar fee to come and marry us. Argh, why do they make things so bloomin' difficult?!?! lol. x
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    • suzky123
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    I would explain the situation. They may be sympathetic but doubtful but you never know. Failing that, ask them if there is a way to pay the extra fee but get the freebies thrown in as suggested. If they wont do anything then they dont deserve your business x

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    • Gazza 122
      CommentAuthorGazza 122
     
    Are you completely set on particular date? like summer season on a saturday is the most expensive...have you considered an October Autumn wedding, or halloween, or go for something wintery in Jan/Feb, places will be cheaper and you can have the numbers you want there for a good price? Also have a look at the prices of mid week bookings...i saved a complete forune on my first wedding as it was mid week, all my guests took a day off, which was lovely and it didnt even feel like midweek xx




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    • mcewan07
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    my venue has a 60 minimum number, but since i am having a monday wedding they have decreased that for us, is having a weekday wedding a possibility?, if not just go and be honest ;) - sa how you love the venue but you cant have the 80 people due to the ceremony etc, and go on to explain that if they cant lower the numbers to 60 for you then you will just have to go to XYZ (name another venue you like)as the will allow it - you just prefered the look and customer service of them.See if they want to loose buisness over 20 people or not.
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    • joey86
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    Their minimum numbers stay the same no matter what time of year. And mid-week is out of the question, as the registry office only allow you to use the smaller rooms (for 12 people max) during the week. Can only use the bigger room at the weekends!

    I'm going to email and ask about the whole number situation, but preparing for the worst lol. Although maybe I will be pleasantly surprised! Luckily we have 2 other venues we're considering where we won't have this problem, but it just happens that this one is my fave! :-(

    Thank you for the help ladies :-)
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    • mcewan07
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    stupid reg. office
    makes me wonder why people ever use them , as very few weddings i can think of has had under 12 people ( i know their is some, but not the norm)
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    • joey86
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    Tell me about it! I guess they'll have to change their ways seen as more and more people are going for mid-week weddings because venues are just getting ridiculous with their prices. x
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    • Mrs (Dove) Pidgeon
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    I'd try for a minimum 'spend' rather than a minimum number. So increase the drinks or food variety for example.

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    • joey86
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    Oooh good idea Dove! Thanks!
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    • zowie
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    I'd agree with dove. Offer to replace the money you would pay for the extra 20 people with wine or something so they aren't losing out on the money but you are at least getting something for it x
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    • Gazza 122
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    that is a very good idea! xx




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    • joey86
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    Just got a reply from the venue - they say that as long as we spend a minimum of £2,000 on the food, the number of guests won't be an issue. But we've just had a look at the registry office that's a bit further away that can seat a lot more people (and therefore we could meet the minimum of 80) and it's only a 20minute drive. So maybe we won't have this issue after all! x
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    • ClareS
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    We had an issue over minimum numbers. We'd fallen in love with one place but the date we waned had a minimum number of 80, but the room we would be holding the civil ceremony in could only hold 50. They said we'd be charged £30 per person that was below the minimum number, so we either invited 80 people and 30 of them couldn't watch us get married, or be charged £900 not to have them there. The refused to budge at all and would offer no compramise so we went elsewhere. We've since found somewhere and there's no issue with minimum numbers :)
 

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