I never thought I'd be posting in the category, but our wedding is currently on hold.
I've always said I didn't want children (people told me I'd change my mind as I grew up, but I never really did), but h2b does want children. Anyway, when we got together I could really see him as a good father, and I thought I'd be able to find my maternal side. To some extent I have, I've had broody moments when I thought, I could be a mum. Honestly though, I can't and I don't ever want to. I haven't got the patience for children, I don't see them enriching my life and I'm far too selfish to want to put somebody elses needs first. I know a lot of people will disagree, saying that "It's different when it's your own!!", but I'd rather not risk finding out!
Anyway, I sat down with h2b last week and discussed the whole thing and I've left it with him. I don't want him to resent me for making him miss out on children, so he currently has the option of staying with me and not having children, or we call the whole thing off and he looks for a future baby mother. He's in shock at the moment, and he's having a think about why it is he wants children - as his answer is currently "because I always thought I would". It's a horrible position to put him in, and I feel like the cruellest partner on the planet. I've also suggested that if he's unsure then we cancel the wedding and use the funds to do something fun just the two of us, maybe a bit of travelling or a luxury holiday.
In the meantime, we're carrying on as normal as we can do. It's hard because I'm waiting for my world to fall apart, but we're at a stage where we're having so much fun. The silly thing is that h2b makes me so happy, people comment constantly about how we come across as a honeymoon couple rather than a couple that have been together for 5 years. We laugh constantly, he's my best friend and we love to be in each others company - and for me, that's enough. I'm just hoping now that he thinks so too.
I'm not really sure on the point of this post, I think part of me just needed to get it out there as I don't want to talk to my family about this yet. I'm going to stay on here for the moment, and hopefully I'll be able to update this post with good news at some point soon.
If only life could be one long tea break
CommentAuthormillz090
I think you have done an amazingly brave thing.... you have been completely honest with him about how you feel knowing it could compromise you happiness and realtonship with this man. Your right he deserves to know how you feel now rather than down the line and if you didnt tell him then the subject will come up again. I have a friend who is similar to you, people keep saying she will want kids as she grows up but i don't think she will and why should she feel she has to have children? It doesn't necessarily complete your life as not for everyone so dont feel guilty or bad as you have put the ball in his court now. Keep strong, dont worry and im sure he understands how you feel xxx
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CommentAuthorLegoWife
I agree you're doing a very brave and selfless thing. Sounds like maybe he'll realise he doesn't really care about kids either he just feels like it's what you're supposed to do in life. I hope it turns out for the best and you can go ahead with the wedding!
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CommentAuthorShazk
Totally agree with Millz and you are not alone feeling this way about children as currently I feeel the same.
h2B has 2 children from previous marrage and ilove them to bits but when we have them it does make me think can i do this 24 7 7 days a week!?!
I think what you have done is very brave and hopefully you to will be able to work it out together x x
be strong we here for you and like say getting out there sometimes help x x x
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CommentAuthorLulu1388
I have to say the other girls have beat me to it with what I was going to say! You are indeed being very brave and selfless, you have put your honest feelings out there, and im sure in time he will understand, just give him that space to think and like the others have said be strong and now its out there, maybe its for the better.
I hope everything works out for the best, sending big hugs your way.
xx
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The other ladies have hit the nail on the head, you're doing the right thing although it might not seem that way at the moment. You would only grow to resent each other for this in the future but by discussing it now, you're also giving him a choice and not forcing anything on him.
Hope it all works out what ever happens xxx
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CommentAuthorSam
You are being very brave & honest. I hope everything works out for you. x x x
CommentAuthorOfficially Mrs M
you really are a very brave and amazing person for telling him and letting him know so he can make the choice, i hope that you two can work it out and that just you two could be enough, if not then maybe he isn't the right man for you rather than you not being the right woman for him *****HUGS*****
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CommentAuthorOWB
Thanks ladies. At the moment I don't feel brave, I feel cruel. It's even harder because people have taken a sudden interest in our wedding, they want to know all the details and they're planning outfits etc, and we're having to put a smile on our face and talk as though it's all normal.
We went shopping yesterday and I saw some perfect wedding shoes, my partner told me to buy them and I had to point out that perhaps now wasn't the best time to be buying things for the wedding, you go along on autopilot with it all.
He wants to talk it all through with his mum, but she's on holiday at the moment so we're waiting for her to get back. I'm not putting any pressure on him at all, at least I'm trying very hard not to.
If only life could be one long tea break
CommentAuthorKate4
I agree, you've done the right thing being open and honest.
I felt exactly the same way as you a year ago. I was 100% adamant I wouldn't have kids for the same reasons you mentioned. But one day I just woke up feeling differently. I'm not 100% sure I do want them, but I'm much more open to it now than I used to be.
Perhaps you'll change your mind. Not necessarily, but never say never.
Big hugs and I hope it works out the best way for you. x
CommentAuthorKate4
I do think though, how does anyone know what's around the corner. You should live for today :-) And if you are both happy at the moment, and you make each other happy then that's more than many people could ask for :-)
CommentAuthorShazk
You do never know what is round the corner, my H2B said he never wanted to get married again or have children but now we engaged and he asked my opinion on children (and EVERYONE was so shocked at the turn around) But you need to decide what you want u have done the best thing and been truthful noone can as any more, we all change our minds at some point but with something as big as this I think what ypu have done is the best thing even thou it doesnt feel like it to you at moment xx
BIG BIG hugs xxx
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CommentAuthormillz090
As hard as it is honey i think you need to see what he wants to do - you have made your feelings clear to him so now he needs to decide what he really wants from life. Is having children the be all and end all for him? If he decides to stay with you then he has to understand that he has made that choice and cant make you feel guilty in the future so this is a big decision for him to make. Dont push him but equally he cant keep you hanging forever so you need some timeline xxx
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CommentAuthorShelleyM46
i think ur brave n uv done the right thing i hope it works out xx
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CommentAuthorJoanna
Wow, this must be such a hard time for both of you. I know it's bad now but you have done the right thing and it was incredibly brave and selfless of you. All you can do now is wait as this is a big decision and he needs to make it himself. Remember you did the right thing and stay strong. I hope everything work's out for you both xxx
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CommentAuthorJemmaH22
I also think you've been very brave!! I hope everything works out for you xx
CommentAuthoralmost a year wife!!
Wow I admire u Hun ur so brave..... At least you've been totally honest with him and yourself..... Good luck to you both and will be thinking of you and hope it works put xxx
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CommentAuthorAmyP7
I agree with the other ladies, you love this man with all your heart but you have put your hubby first. Its up to him now, but i really hope he realises what he has. I hope it works out for you x x
CommentAuthorKirstyM3690
first off well done! being really brave and also being 100% real to yourself
i had my son when i was 17 was in an awful relationship so ive raised my son alone altho been a struggle at times but also been an amazing ive always said i didnt want anymore children.. i can afford my son and thats it since being with h2b and knowing he wants children its been kinda hard for the first lot of months cause i didnt but now i suppose i kinda want to see what happeneds! theres no pressure and to be honest weve both said if it doesnt happen GREAT if it does GREAT too.. before getting into a marriage its all about being so honest!! and i think youve not only put youre feelings across youve also been thinking of youre h2b and it must be so hard dont think i could have a chat regarding him having children with someone else or finding someone that wants kids!! well done you and you both sound an amazing couple these things can only make you stronger!!
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CommentAuthorKristina
Well done for being so brave and being real to your self.
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CommentAuthorElle23
Well done! To echo everyone else, a very brave & selfless thing to do You love him so much you have put him first Something you thought you couldn't (or wouldn't want to) do for a child but can do it for him so shows how much you care about himI hope your story has a happy ending x
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CommentAuthorHa_x3
I think you have done the right thing hun, must of been so hard though.
I have always been honest with my hubby from day one that i want children & that if he didnt want children to call it a day there and then, because to me its a waiste of time being with someone if we want different things.
I guess you are feeling the same way.
Good luck hun & keep us updated xx
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CommentAuthorlizzylou
You've not been cruel at all. You've done the right thing. It'd have been cruel to go ahead knowing how you feel without telling him. I know it must feel awful right now but you've done the right thing and in the long run if the worse does happen and you don't stay together you'll both know you did the right thing. Something as big as a family you really have to be on the same page as each other. It's better to discuss it now rather than bury your heads in the sand and hope it goes away, it's just be worse in the long run.
I know you don't feel brave but all the other girls are right. It takes really strength to do what you've done. It shows how much you care for your partner as you are willing to put his feelings and the "right thing" before your own emotions.
Stay strong. xxx
Lizzy. x
CommentAuthorLauraJo87
I agree, cruel would be to go along with it hoping that someday you'll change your mind....I agree that you have been very brave.
Hope you get the answer you want xx
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CommentAuthorLittle Kettle
Wow! Totally agree with the other ladies; so very brave of you and you were absolutely right to bring this up now rather than later. Sending you big hugs, babe x
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CommentAuthorMrsC2bee
I think what u did was so brave hun. You've done the right thing for both you and ur OH. You don't want to get married and him turn around in 20yrs time regretting not havig kids and blaming you or u having a child and resenting it and OH. Least this way u both lay ur cards on the table and know where u both stand about ur future. U should be very proud of yourself hun and I hope it withstand out great for you x
CommentAuthorPB
Now that is love!.He is a lucky man to have someone who thinks so much of him that you will put his happiness before your own despite the fact that to do so must be tearing out your heart.xxx
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CommentAuthorAnnette
I did the same thing with my H2B, he wants kids, I don't. So one day I sat down and said "Well what if I never want kids? What then?" We had a chat and in the end he said he'd be very sad if we didn't have kids, but he'd never leave me over it. It is a really hard conversation to have, but it has to be done. I know you feel like the ice queen, but some of us just aren't in the baby business! I love kids, but I just can't see myself having them, like you say 24/7. I'm sure it will work out hon, best of luck xxx
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CommentAuthorShirleygirly
You are obviously perfect together and you are together for a reason. For all you or he knows he could go find somebody else for the sake of having kids that he doesn't love as much then find that he can't have them at all. I always think as far as kids are concerned nobody can say for sure what the future holds. My sister never wanted them, now she's 41 and desperate to but can't conceive. I have a friend who was disgusted by the thought of having kids rule her life, she even said if she were to become pregnant then she would terminate without a second thought, she's currently 42 and undergoing fertility treatment. You have your mind made up that you don't want kids, your h2b thinks he wants them because it's apparently a natural progression in life. I personally, from what you have said, think you are more important to him than kids he doesn't have. What's the point in having children with someone who isn't your soulmate when the sacrifice in doing so is losing the one you were meant for.
You are so brave to have discussed it with him and I think (hope) you will be surprised by his decision. I worry about a mothers influence as they tend to be a bit selfish in their need for grandchildren.
I'm 32 and I haven't got a clue if I want kids, h2b has a son from his 1st marriage so there's no pressure from him although he'd like to have one together. My pressure is the increased risks the older I get. Why is it all so difficult?
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CommentAuthorKellyN29
I hope he realises what a special person he has, you have shown your commitment to him by laying your heart out on the table. He needs his space but at least he hasn't just pushed you away - it shows he loves you and wants to make the right decision. I hope to wait won't be too long for you x
CommentAuthorOWB
Wow, I wasn't on here last night as we spent 4 hours shopping for a pair of boots. However reading your comments this morning has brought me to tears.
I'm hoping the heart to heart with his mum will help. She's not naturally maternal herself, and although she loves her two boys (not that they're boys anymore, they're 29 and 30), I know she counted down the days until they left home. I've always been open in saying that children aren't a priority, I'm happy never to have them and that I don't really want to be a mum, so I haven't thrown this at him from nowhere, I think it's just a shock that I've made it so definite now.
Right now we're trying to put it in the background most of the time by keeping busy, then when he's had a chance to think we'll talk properly. I heard a comment recently that was "If he loves you enough to want children with you, then he loves you enough to choose you", I hope so.
If only life could be one long tea break
CommentAuthorOWB
Okay, so I have a little update, but no answer as yet.
I've been really good with h2b (I'll still call him that for the moment, until a decision is made), I've tried not bring this up in conversation to give him time to think, I haven't put any of my opinions over to him to try to make him agree with me and I'm not rushing him at all. He needs to reach his own decision in his own time.
Anyway, on Monday night we went to visit his parents and he took his mum off for a chat. He told her what he was thinking, that he doesn't really like children and he gets bored of my niece and nephew, he hates it when they touch his things. He doesn't like whining, he doesn't like the time they take up and he doesn't like that he has to stop doing what he wants to cater to them. I wouldn't mind, but these are actually good kids!!! Anyway, he asked his mum if it's different when it's your own, and she said that whilst it is different, it's not easy. Children are demanding, costly and not always fun.
She pointed out that children aren't everything and that if we're happy then he has to consider if that's enough. She pointed out that he has to understand that if we had kids I'd be the primary carer, I'd have to give up working full time, I'd be the one that carried them and would be stuck at home with them.
So we had a chat when we got home and he's admitted that he's not that keen on children, he just wants a son to play football in the park with, and to carry on the family name. He's never really thought about not having children before (It seems it takes more thought in not having children than some people take to go ahead with a family). A lot of our friends are pregnant, or have had children recently and this hasn't once made him want to start a family. Our friends also went through IVF as they couldn't see their life being complete with a child in it, h2b said that he doesn't feel this need.
At the moment I think we may be okay, but he's asked for a little more time to be clear. We don't have to do anything else for the wedding until the new year, so it's a good time to take a step back and really think about it.
I just thought I'd keep you up to date.
If only life could be one long tea break
CommentAuthorTori
Hope it works out well for you. I think you have done the right thing by being so honest and do hope that you both feel the same and can get through this x
CommentAuthorJillianL47
I wish you luck, with whatever decision he makes.
CommentAuthorJoannaS
all I can say is good luck x
CommentAuthorNEDebz
Wow. you are a very brave and selfless lady. I wish you all the luck in the world, what you've shown him is that you love him enough to allow yourself to be miserable so that in the long term he can be happy (well in your eyes I'm sure that the thought of having children is insignificant in comparision to being with out you)
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CommentAuthorAmyP7
Glad it seems to be going ok, and this is good. I do hope he realises what he has in you and decides to stay. You really are very brave x x
CommentAuthorLulu1388
Glad it seems to be going ok, i hope he realises what an angel he has standing by his side, good luck hun xx
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CommentAuthorlizzylou
So glad you guys have had another a chat about it, sounds like you are at least on the right road to making an informed decission. It's a big decission for both of you so it's only right you take your time and think it through. Sounds a bit like he always like the idea of children but in a very idealistic way and perhaps hadn't really thought about the practicalities, I know it's not the case always but in 9 out of 10 families it is the mom that ends up dealing with the children on a "9 - 5 basis" and hopefully now he's thought about the parts of having children that he doesn't like he'll understand why it is you don't see it being your life.
I hope it all works out as it should. And well done again for making a hard choice and tackling this sooner rather than later. A good many people would have avoided doing what you've done but made it far worse for themselves in the long run. You are one selfless and loving girl. xx
Lizzy. x
CommentAuthormillz090
ah honey thanks for the update, was thinking about you the other day. I think his mum is spot on about explaining its not just about kicking a football around the park and he is not thinking the whole situation through 100% which i think alot of people are guilty for.
I really hope it works out for you honey and he realises you are enough for him and make his life complete anyway. Lots of love xxx
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CommentAuthorTamster
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This is a touching story and how refreshing it is to hear that this is being discussed before heartbreak further down the line you were right to tell him and are right to not try and change his mind men feel comfortable when they have mulled over a problem and have made their own mind up and it's great he's not taking this decision lightly either so that if you both come to the conclusion your child free then in your heart you know it's what you both want. I hope that you do walk down the aisle as it seems you love one another so much you destined to be together in 10-15 years when you have grown as a couple you might be having another conflab to change your mind you never ever know what life throws at you good luck x
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CommentAuthorShirleygirly
You've got a good'un there, I think you are going to be alright.
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CommentAuthorSam
I hope he figures out the having a kid to play football with is not a reason to have a child. There's not guarantee that you'll have a boy and that he'll like any sport let alone football. Sounds like he doesn't really care for kids but it might be awhile before he realizes that having children because he's expected to is not a great idea. Good luck
CommentAuthorKirstyJ22
I hope it all works out for you hun x x
CommentAuthorDolliDagger
Actually pulled on the old heart strings reading that, but i think you have done the right thing and shows you have respect for you and your h2b, why beat around the bush and pretend. You both want to be happy, i hope it all works for you xxx
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CommentAuthorTinkerbell
I think the very fact you've been so honest and open with each other shows how perfect you are for each other. I hope it all works out and he agrees with you that you two are all it takes xx
CommentAuthorOWB
Okay, I'm finally back with good news. H2B and I booked some time of work and went to stay in Spain for a few days. That way we had no thing else to think about other than ourselves, you know how life can get in the way at times!
It had been over a month since the conversation had first started, and long story short he agreed that he only wanted children as that's generally the plan for life - grow up, get married, have babies. Anyway, when he's weighed up the pro's and cons, he can be happy just the two of us.
So, wedding is back on track and once Christmas is over with we'll start the final preparations.
Now to talk to my mother about how she's not going to get grandchildren from me.... wish me luck. (we have pet rats, furry grandchildren count right?!)
If only life could be one long tea break
CommentAuthorVelcro
Glad its all worked out for you :) I dreaded having that talk with my H2B, but it's cerainly better to be honest overall, and although he does want children, he said if I dont want them, then that's fine, which was a massive relief! I sure you feel like a weight has been lifted at last!
My problem is now, his family just seem to assume we will have them sooner or later, and while I have never ruled it out completely, I have said to him its very very unlikely, so when his sister excitedly mentions it, I just smile and nod my head! I'm not for discussing it with anyone else, as really, its no one elses business, family or not. If someone actually asks me, rahter than making assumptions, then I'll be honest.
I don't understand why some people find it so hard to deal with when people dont want kids. We both have children from previous relationships, and the idea of starting again from scratch, just as Im starting to reassert my independance as she gets less dependant on me, doent really fill me full of the joys of spring!
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CommentAuthorOWB
I've told a couple of people that are close to me and it hasn't come as a surprise at all. I got chatting about it to a lady at work a few days ago as she doesn't have children, it turns out that she went through the same thing with her husband 20 years ago, he was upset at the time, but now he says he's glad it turned out the way it did.
People can get quite snooty when you say you don't want children, like you've offended their children! I might make a bet with h2b on how many people with make the 'babies next' comment on our wedding day!