I felt like I've been gone for years! As some of you may remember my partner is in the Armed Forces and got a 4month posting overseas. I did the scrapbook idea for his return and he thought it was great when he got home which was the 12th December after a long 17 and a half weeks! That has been one reason why I haven't been around. The other being, well, I'm not sure if I am actually getting married now :(
Basically a guy from my work left in mid November and a new guy came in, what I told was for temp over Xmas and NY. He has now, overall taken 8hours away from my shifts A WEEK! So he definately isn't a temp now! I've explained to my boss that the sudden cut in my hours is unexpected and not on seeing as I am a fulltime member of staff on below minium wage, who is now working part time, which I never asked for. Obviously the sudden drop in wage was unexpected. It has been halved! I barely get £150 a week now. She told me to either like it or lump it! Which she knows I wouldn't because I have no where to go and couldn't afford a wedding not bringing in my own income.
My wage is now far from enough for a wedding, so it means the brakes are firmly locked on and this wedding has come to a grinding halt and I'm completely devastated. Its not what I wanted for OHs return at all :(
I hope you're all well, a lot of catching up to do and thanks for the rant X
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CommentAuthorLinzi-jo
Oh hun this is awful! And I am pretty sure they cannot do this! Have you signed anything agreeing to the cut in hours? And does your contract have your hours stated in it? If you didn't sign anything agreeing to it, then she is breaching your contract, which she can't do! And she can't sack you if you bring it up and put your foot down as it would be unfair dismisal. That is a lot of money to lose, I am so angry for you!!! Some people need a good hard slap! (obviously dont do that, then you will get fired! lol) But on the upside, yay h2b is home and liked everything!! And welcome back xxx
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CommentAuthorbrilly
aww no hun thats awful is there anyway you could claim some sort of working tax credit I think if you work 20 hours your entitled to it x
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CommentAuthorAmyP7
They can't do this, you need to ring citizens advise x x
CommentAuthorGlitterfairy
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Surely if you are actually working for LESS than the minimum wage she is already breaking the law. Sounds like you need some professional law help here.
Also, after I read your boss is a woman, and the new person is a man, I thought HMMMMMM!!!
Yeh they are right, you need to contact the cab or someone and get advice!
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CommentAuthorkimi1987
I had this problem with a previous employer. If it states in ur contract (if u have 1) that they can alter ur hours unfortunately there's nothing you can do. My ex boss cut mine from 25 down to 3 all because I didn't turn up for a shift I knew nothing about. So I quit. Hope things turn out better for u than they did for me
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CommentAuthorTatty
Agree with the other ladies, they shouldn't be able to just cut then without any notice or reasoning. xx
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CommentAuthorGillianE
i would definitely get some professional advice on this one, i don't think she can change your hours without prior warning and if it isn't in your contract. At a previous company i worked at, i was told that if your hours or shift times were increased or changed and you did these over a certain period of time, they become your new contract. Without it been in writing. I don't know anymore than this so don't know if this can be done anymore, but i just wanted to tell you. Hope you get it sorted soon, it must be a really awful situation to be in. Let us know how you get on. xx
CommentAuthorMrsC
The others have given you great advice it i didn't just want to read and run. I hope you can sort something out and get your big day back on track. There is always the route of having a small intimate legal wedding so you are husband and wife, and then saving for your dream one in a few years. Good luck xx
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CommentAuthorStephanieM71
like lala said contact ACAS, they are brilliant (and free) they got me my maternity allowance and my redundancy pay which work were refusing to pay as apparently I was a temp - for 3 damn years. They said if you have been working the same department, same hours for more then a year even without a contract you are a permanent member of staff and have the same rights as other staff. Hope you get a good outcome too, unfortunately employers seem to think that they can treat you however they like these days because we are all too scared to say anything cos we need the job
CommentAuthorprincesspixie
oh no what awful news but like most of the others have said im pretty sure she cant do this i'd check what your legal rights are xx
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CommentAuthorHobbitBeth
Thanks girls.
I had a contract drawn up when I began there which was for when I was an apprentice, which I take it now I have finish my apprenticeship is no longer valid? If so, it means I have no contract.
I generally spent most of last night sending out my CV to as many places possible because I need to get out. The plan was we would be married before OH moved to his next base posting and we would get marriage quarters but it is looking less likely each day :( X
CommentAuthorKayleighH98
That is awful news :( Im sorry I have no advice to offer just what all the other ladies are saying about seeking advice, I hope you get everything sorted and just keep the faith, everything turns out alright in the end and I know it sometimes takes a while to get to what feels like an eternity. But whether it be a new job with a better income or a intimate wedding Im sure youll be able to tie the knot somehow! I hope everything works out alright for you and your husband to be xxx
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CommentAuthorHobbitBeth
Thank you.
The worse thing is I've read some of the acas codes and there are quite a few that are against me :/ I just feel hurt that I have been working there nearly a year and a half and some guy who has only just been there over a month is favoured already. He isn't even nice. He treats me like I'm his slave or something! He cant even get his own cup of coffee which comes from the coffee machine! But that's a whole other rant.
I'm just sending out my CV to anywhere that I feel would suit me, hoping there is something. Need some positive vibes! X
CommentAuthorShazk
Oh huni I have sent a message to mrs wright as she use to deal with employment law she maybe able to advise more on this but if not defo seek advise as u shouldn't be in LESS than minimum wage to start with xxx
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CommentAuthorJoanna
This is terrible, so sorry to hear this :( I don't know what to advise, apart from contact acas or someone who can help. Also, if you want to get married before your h2b gets posted again, could you just cutback on your wedding plans and have a smaller, more intimate wedding? Then you'd still be married :)
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CommentAuthorHayley Elizabeth
There is no way you should be earning less than minimum wage unless you are an apprentice and on apprentice wages! If not i would definitely go and seek some legal advice. Other than that, My OH and I were supposed to be getting married this May but we couldn't afford it so have put it off until next May, is this something you could do? It broke my heart to do it as i'm 31 and will mean i'll be 32 when i get married but it was a case of needs must xxx
CommentAuthorMrs-Mouse-2-be
Nothing wrong with getting married well into the thirties I will be 36 as my name states and my age is just a number. Anyway what. Want to say yeah go seek advice but bring a copy of your contract with you. If you don't have a copy go to HR and ask if they would kindly give you a copy of it but don't tell them what you want it for. Then go see if you can get impartial advice either at citizens advice or the other group that were mentioned.
They may well be acting within the law and within what is stated on your contract or they might not but you must go and check it out. Ok and I don't want to seem ignorant here but I feel I have to ask is there any reason in particular as to why they have cut your hours and given him the work? Do you talk to people when you are supposed to be working, are you giving your job 100%? Do you take a lot of days off sick, are you coming in late? I know employers sometimes do this kind of thing for no reason and its possible this is the case here but sometimes these things do happen for a genuine reason and sometimes it can be the individuals own fault. I'm not saying it is your fault but have you been told off or given warnings or anything like that? I've seen similar things happening to members of staff before. Whatever their reasons for it just find out what your right are but remain calm and put in a complaint if you find that you are within your right to do so.
CommentAuthor*KelBel*
I think if u began as an apprentice, this is why you're on below minimum wage because I think apprentices are on is it £60 a week for about 24 hrs work but get a diploma in retail or whatever area of work ur in, I don't think they're obligated to keep u on once u have finished ur apprenticeship but if they have u should have signed another contract telling u how many hrs etc they are giving u, otherwise at the min, you will be on a 0hr contract so they're not obligated to give u any hours at all x
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CommentAuthorMrs-Mouse-2-be
I am just wondering how come OP you are stressing about your wedding now but it says you get married in seven years time? And as it seems you have way more time than most other brides surely you could forget about wedding planning for a while and just concentrate on getting through this tough time and start thinking of it again when you are a bit more financially stable and haven't got so many things going on in your life? I know that if I was you I would keep the wedding date etc but I would put off the planning of it for at least 1-2 years or maybe longer and purely because worrying about it now with 7 years to go would drive me mad. Plus it would drive my fiancé mad too lol.
All I'm saying is relax you have plenty of time and a lot can happen in seven years. Who knows in 6 months or 1 year or whatever you could be in a job you love and that pays well. Don't have any unnescessary stress hanging over you for the time being :-) besides calling off your wedding that's seven years away is a bit drastic and I guarantee in a year or so you will look back and think "What on earth was I thinking"? I've made loads of unnescessary hasty decisions in my life and most of them I really regret.
CommentAuthorTori
Just because you don't have a written contract does not mean you don't have a contract. Your wage slips or bank statements are proof of your employment and your sudden deduction in wages.
You should be eligible for legal aid for legal advice on your employment matters. If you do a search for legal aid helpline (a government run service) they should be able to give you further help and advice x
CommentAuthorVelcro
If you have no contract, you can have them for that as well, youre supposed to have one (my ex boss got taken to court by an ex employee and the lack of contract was one of the things that came up)
Id definaltey definately seek legal advice, she has no right to tell you to 'like it or lump it' its unprofessional and she sounds like a complete wanker. I can not abide people like that, I have no tolerance. You treat people how you want to be treated.
As Tori says, you will have proof that it's suddenly dropped and that (Im assuming) it has been a steady income of the same amount prior to that
I would definately mention the lack of contract as well, she will be in breach of all sorts with that
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CommentAuthorHobbitBeth
My date of marriage has changed. It wasn't in 7years time. It was in less than a year and a half away. I just changed it last night in a fit of rage at seeing the date which I knew it now wasn't going to be.
I'm going to ask to have a meeting with her about a new contract with contracted hours etc. If she doesn't agree then I will have to hand in my notice. The guy who has taken my hours had the cheek to complain that he now had too many and was annoyed at the amount of work he was having to do! I was fuming, I really was.
I'm also going to have a big sit down with OH and see what direction we are going in and see if we can plan something x
CommentAuthorVelcro
I wouldn't direct your rage at the bloke, Id aim it all on that woman, she sounds like a right dragon, don't do anything too hasty like rage quitting (I can say that from experience hahaha) the meeting sounds good, but Id still definately recommend CAB, or ACAS, both, especially the latter, will give you the advice you need.
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CommentAuthorHobbitBeth
So I had my meeting yesterday and nothing has changed. I've been given Monday night to work and that is it. I just cba anymore. I'm just trying to find a new job and that is it x
CommentAuthorInDreamland
Just read this thread and all the posts.
I work in HR and am a senior adviser so will give it a stab.
If you started there as an apprentice and therefore on an apprentice wage and contract but never had a new contract issued then the one you have is what is valid unfortunately. Do you have anything in writing and signed that states your contracted hours?
If you have something in writing stating your contracted hours and they want to decrease them your employer needs to consult with you prior to actually making the change. I've had legal advice on a similar matter from my professional body and it's clear that unless contracted your employer is not legally bound to provide you with the pay and hours.
What I am interested to know is what your contract does states, even if as an apprentice, is it a fixed term contract? As it would make sense for it to be as most apprenticeships are time bound in that they last a year or two but you gain experience and a qualification at the end of it but the organisation is not duty bound to employ you full time or permanently after you're qualified.
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CommentAuthorMrs-Mouse-2-be
I wouldn't direct my rage at anyone in the company as that can and does lead to dismissal. It seems to me that the OP has not read through her contract I'm sad to say and therefore has no idea if the company have taken liberties over her rights to x amount of her contracted hours. Companies these days act within what their employees contracts state. I have worked in enough places to know that you should really take the opportunity to read and fully understand your employee contract before you sign. Employment laws are there for reasons these main reasons- to protect the employee against undue discrimination, to protect the employee's co workers and to protect the company. But if the contract states that the company can change an employees shift or amount of hours and the employee has signed this then there is nothing the employee can do as the contract is a legal document that should have been read and understood before signing.
CommentAuthorValentinaK
How can you legally be on below minimum wage?
I think you're best looking for a new job, holding off the wedding til you have saved or ask for help from families. You can get married for not evry much still these days, it just won't be as huge a wedding...which may be a blessing!