Had to do a mercy dash this morning at silly o'clock to rescue my daughter (and my son who had been staying with her overnight), she is 19 and has been living with her partner for 2 years. She has bruises and there was a degree of violence, pushing around etc and they both got thrown out on the street with no belongings. So she spent the night on the sofa and now we have to sort out what to do. She cant keep on sleeping on the sofa. Going to the council on Monday but dreading them saying that she has a home now with us and therefore does not qualify for council help with accomodation. I dont really want her sleeping on my sofa indefinitely, to be honest she isnt the easiest person to live with and the tension in the house is incredible already and she's only been here a few hours! We have already sat down and gone through house rules. I think part of the problem is lack of maturity, she is 19 but acts a lot younger, nothing is too serious and all we have heard this morning is giggling despite the problems going on around us. H2B is not happy at all, very quiet and obviously not impressed. I know she is my daughter but I really cant have her living with us for too long - I believe we would fall out big time and I dont want that. So any idea what the council will do when we go down on Monday? Anyone been in this situation? Are the council just going to say that now she is with us she has a home and they dont have to provide anything for her??? PS. She has been self employed working from home but has no savings or deposit for a flat etc and all our money is taken up for the wedding, I've just been made part time and H2B lost his job just before New Year, otherwise giving her a deposit might have been an option. Aaaaarrrrgggghhhh!
CommentAuthorStevie_Dee
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Tricky - If you concentrate on the part of her being made unintentionally homeless and theres no possibilty of going back due to the threat of violence/domestic abuse then the Council have a duty to provide accomodation. As she has no savings it may mean her going into sheltered accomodation. Is the sofa the only pace for her to stop or is there a spare room? As the council will probably ask if theres the room. You may need to be harsh. She will need to tell the council that its impossible for her to stay with you due to lack of space/relationship of mother/daughter broken down to a point where you are not able to live together under same roof. I know this sounds bad but these will be questions they ask. She will need to fill out a form for unintentional homelessness and she should get a case officer. Unless she has children and shes no longer a minor she will not be classed as an emergency case so there may be a wait before sheis able to get accomodation. I hope any of this helps. xx
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CommentAuthorButton-Bell
hi hunni im sorry to hear that nothin worse
i lived with my aunt when i was younger due to my family not liking my dad after my mum passed but when i turned 18 she kicked me out saying she couldnt look after me anymore (even thou i never spent any time in her house i stayed with my bf now H2B most of the time and only went home when i needed a change of clothes) the real reason i foun out later was because she stopped gettin money for me as i was technically an adult the council went in her favour and helped me and my sister find a flat but because the list was so long 4 a council house we were adviced to go 4 a private let which we did then they turned round and sayed they wouldnt help us pay rent ect because i was at college and had a part-time job
be careful the council can b ur friend or foe if they say they will help u fine out exactly how (housing benifet, help with deposits ect ) i know my story has lil hope but mine was a totally different situation just tell the council u cant afford to keep ur daughter with the current climit but u couldnt leave her in the situation she was in they will have to help her coz technically shes homeless
hope this helps :) xx
CommentAuthorStevie_Dee
The sticky point would come over the self employment. If they can prove she can support herself she would probably not come under their duty and she may need to look for housing herself. There used to be something that you could apply for which was a grant towardds a deposit for rented accomodation but Im not sure if she would qualify as I dont know her circumstances or if they do this in your area but it may be something to look into. xx
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Depending on what she does for work from home, if she now doesnt have the home to work in she could technically be classed as now unemployed but like I say Im unsure of the actual circumstances. xx
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Depending on how much she earns self employed, if she can get her own private housing and afford the monthly rent on her income all well and good. However if her income from self employment would no way near cover monthly rent/bills etc... It may mean it would benefit her to claim income support/jsa/housing benefit to help towards costs. Ps Im not suggesting for a minute thats what she should do. Im going by what advice places like shelter would give. I used to work on the phones a few years back and its only one of the options they would explain. xx
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CommentAuthorXLittleMissMe!X
I'm pretty sure that there are charities that help out women who have suffered from domestic violence and that they can help with re housing etc. If you can get someone like that to help her then she will be housed a lot quicker than if you try and do it on your own.
Council houses don't go by your income as strange as it sounds. I know a couple who are in a council house and he is a bank manager. Just goes to show eh?
CommentAuthorStevie_Dee
I take your point Jo, my brother is in full time employment and lives in a council house and obviously receives no benefits, however when he got the house he was unemployed with 3 children and was classed in gold band as high priority. Anyone is welcome to put themselves on the council list whether unemployed or employed. Depending on circumstances you will be given priority/higher band. Im not sure if it is still done this way but it used to be emergency/gold/silver/bronze, if you are working, have no children/disabilites and no other circumstances which put you at a high priority, you will be in silver or bronze and obviously the wait for accomodation can take longer. xx
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CommentAuthorspooney24
It may be wise to get her to apply to housing associations too very soon as the sooner she is on their list the quicker she will have a chance of being housed. I had to temporarily move back to my parents a few years ago and applied to housing associations and added within the extra information that my parents were only offering me to stay there temporarily as a favour. I was rehoused within 2 months of applying. Also if you explain to the council about not having space in your house for your daughter and about the domestic abuse she may be put into homeless accommodation until a council place becomes available. xx
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CommentAuthorSoon2beMrsHall
If she has a child they have to re house her. Just tell them there is no room at your house that she is sleeping on the sofa. Try not to tell them she is self employed otherwise they will not do anything. Tell them about the violence. They should move fast
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CommentAuthorJane
Thanks for all your advice, will go to Citizens Advice and Connexions and Council on Monday, she is stopping her business in the short term and has no children. Hopefully something good will happen for her. On a side note... the lodger has also been kicked out of her house so has taken up residence with us till at least Monday too.... feeling like a home for waifs and strays now. Her ex has been to the house and cleared it out today, he didnt hang around!! Taken most of her things that they bought for the house which is a shame, all she has is a few bin bags. Never mind, possessions can be replaced, she cant.
CommentAuthorXLittleMissMe!X
She should be able to get an emergency loan to help her kit out a new place and there are charities that do cheap furniture for people on low incomes etc.
CommentAuthorVintageChic
Also you should maybe write a letter to the council stating she's not welcome to live in your home. I know that sounds harsh but sometimes telling councils there's not enough room isn't enough. They may see it as, she's on the sofa so there's space. Just write a letter they can put in their files saying "as of **date** she is no longer welcome to live with you". Like I said I know it sounds harsh but it will make them see her has homeless (which she is considering she's on the sofa but like i said the council don't see it that way).
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CommentAuthorRachie :D
My mum and brother had this too - If she agrees she doesn't want to live with you then if she tells the council under no circumstances can she live with you and if you tell them you are throwing her out then they have to help her as she is technically homeless xxxx
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CommentAuthorsbride
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your daughter has every chance of getting a council place. We were living in a one bed flat with our 2 children and got given a 2 bed council place. So there is hope hun. Just focus on the fact that you cant live together.
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CommentAuthorRags
I was 16 when the council housed me.....I had violence in both parental homes....I had to report this to them and risked my parents careers, but although I didn't start the violence I probably was a know it all madame, The council offered me flats, and I refused them straight off explaining that I wouldn't feel safe and the flats they were talking about were dodgy ones. I managed to get a 1 bed house with a garden in virtually no time at all, it needed some major decorating work doing to it, but I turned it around on £50 per room, I got furniture, fridge, cooker and pots and pans from a charity. This was all 10 years ago, but I was kipping on a brothers couch and they found me somewhere I could live. Be straight and cheerful with the council workers, if you have a good attitude, yet stick to your guns they can make miracles happen. My mate houses people now I could try and find out loop holes from her if you need it.
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CommentAuthorJane
Its just such a shame, she was so happy in that house and now she has nothing, hardly any possessions, ex has cleared the house so everythings gone, even the jewellery I bought her for her 18th and her camera equipment, exam certificates, birth certificate, everything. Even her two beloved cats. Tried to get the RSCPA involved but they werent interested. As far as we know they are still in the empty house being fed and watered. We have no key to get in to get them out as ex threw her out and she had no key to get back in. Even the lodger had to give his key back, such a mess....
Anyway, as usual she is already baulking at our house rules (which arent very strict! eg. reasonable bed time as other two are studying for GCSEs and A levels, no internet after 11, no eating in the sitting room, no swearing... not too bad I dont think!!!) Trying to be as supportive as I can and to be honest if she could stick to the rules, be more committed to her work and basically grow up a bit I'm sure we could live quite happily together indefinitely. And she says now that she doesnt want to live on her own (she's never had to before...). So not sure what is going to happen. Or where to put her if she stays indefinitely!!!!
At least for now I can make sure she is clean, has clean clothes, eats well and gets a lot of sleep, to be honest she wasnt looking after herself particularly well before so its nice to see my daughter coming back to normal.
CommentAuthorkrisw86
the certificates can all be replaced. she can be housed. but she has to declare the violence, and most probably to the police. if she does report to the police, they may also be able to help get her stuff back, or at least negotiating it. especially as its not his property he is keeping. she was thrown out and therefore seen as unintentionally homeless. best bet is to contact the council asap as they will give u the best advice u need or the CAB. xx
CommentAuthorlala "mod" bunni
tbh i would go straight to the police ...he has stolen her belongings
Go to the council and have her declare herself homeless. As long as she can prove a connection to the area (ie she's lived there x years) and you say she is not welcome to move back home, they have to help her. As she is 19, she is also classed as a young person (under 21).
Both myself and 2 of my friends have gone through Aberdeen's homeless dept. Depending on her income, she may also be eligable for a grant to furnish a property. She maybe in B&B for a few weeks first though and you don't really get a choice of propery, but the main thing is that it would be hers and in a few years time she could apply for a swap or a whole new property.
My friend was in emergency accommodaion for 2 weeks and got a fantastic 1 bedroomed flat on the outskirts of the city centre. The waiting time depends on how long the list is in your area though.
Good luck!
CommentAuthoralmostmrswood
Oh and being female helps too! Gets you bumped up the list a bit!
CommentAuthormym72
When I left my ex a few years ago (though not due to violence), I moved back with my parents (and took my son with me). They had a 2 bedroomed council house - and I visited the council and explained the situation, filled in an application form for housing - and they sent out one of their officers to inspect the house and conditions. I had to show them how much cupboard space I had for myself and my son (one shelf in the fridge and one in the kitchen cupboard) - and also where we slept and any wardrobe space. Because it was only a 2 bedroomed house and I had to share a room with my son (who was 5 at the time), it was classed as overcrowded, and we were given priority on the housing list. I started the process off in the June, and after meeting with a few different housing offices, we were offered a house local to my parents at the beginning of the August - so it didn't take that long.
My parents did tell the housing officer that they couldn't have us living with them long term though because of the space - so maybe you need to stress to the council that you can't have your daughter there and explain the situation (maybe in writing as well). She should be able to be rehoused in council housing given the circumstances.
And like other people have said, the council do not base housing allocation on income - as I am a Teaching Assistant and was when I got my house (and not been unemployed for about the last nearly 20 years).
CommentAuthorAbi4tomboy
hi were we live as shes homless and itnot her fault and domestic vilonce she would be on gold plus or prority if its jst her and all she needs is a 1 bed flat she should have something quikish going on others howeve its houses that are hard to get as im class a disablied even tho im only 20 i have servia arthrutus and struggle daily and my partner is my career and i have 2 children in a small 1 bed flat my eldest is nearly 2 and still waiting
CommentAuthorSweetyPie
Hi, I've just been through the rehousing hoops. Womens Aid are a good source of advice for DV and housing advice, you should give them the circumstances, perhaps say she's not welcome in your home.. for whatever reasons. Councils can refuse to rehouse (on a whim) or put you on lengthy waiting lists. Your daughter can approach the local council offices in person and present herself as homeless, she will probably be offered temp accomodation but she will be priority to be rehoused. It's a difficult thing for a young girl to go through but the quickest option. I hope some of this has helped. Good luck! xXx
CommentAuthorRags
Best of luck, as you say she is not being good at sticking to the rules then I wouldn't let her stay on. This is early days, whats she gonna be like when the honeymoon period is over. Follow through with the process and try and get her homed, I am sure you can say she doesn't need the emergency housing as you don't think psychologically she could cope with that, but she does need to find a place of her own.
The other options are to look for rooms to rent. I know loads of folk, students and working people who don't want to or can't afford to live on their own, find rooms in local papers and on sites like gum t r (ee)
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