Yesterday the Supreme Court ruled that a prenuptial agreement between a German hieress and her ex husband was legally binding.
What are your views on Pre- nups? Would you ever have one?
ETA- theres a link on my wall for more info on Pre-nups, and their new legal standing in the UK.
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I asked Sean if he wanted one but he was horrified. It was just to shut up my MIL who thinks I am only after his money. What she doesn't know that he might have assets (house and a yacht) but I have more money than him and I have a flat in London which is let out now as well so I'm hardly a golddigger ................ touched on a nerve there!
CommentAuthorRags
I would to protect my home, as previously discussed. I think that I got a mortgage on my own at 18 is something worth preserving. I don't ever want to split up with H2b and don't see it as a negative, or a prenup means you expect it to fail. The idea is for us to get our own place together when we're married anyway so he can have his share of that :)
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CommentAuthorNuttytart
I looked into it and was told they aren't legally binding in the uk
CommentAuthorangelan1986
If my h2b asked me to sign a pre-nup I would but unfortunalty for me he's not rich so it wouldnt matter anyway lol
The other half can only take what you've built as a couple, seen as though I got my house before I got with him and he doesn't pay the mortgage I'm quite well covered, this would just be extra proof that he never expected to get anything from my home. *It would be given consideration not be legally binding*
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CommentAuthorLittle Miss Bump
At the beginning of a marriage i suppose a pre-nup would come across as though one partner thinks the marriage wont last, if the marriage ends though, they might wish they had a pre-nup
CommentAuthorMrs (Dove) Pidgeon
You say that they aren't legally binding, but a court has just ruled that one is... so do you think they should be?
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CommentAuthorCroc
i think if i was mega rich and i married someone then yes id want one as id want someone to marry me for love and not my money and vice versa id happily sign a pre nup if the person was mega rich to prove it... and any ways even if you were just after his money whilst together ud have what ever you wanted so it wouldnt matter!! that bits a joke.
i do thou think they should be legally binding as so many marriges break down thesse days and for someone to take half of what ever you brought in to the marriage is wrong
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CommentAuthorluvlifejen (mrs berr
hmmm i dont think i would bother! but i can see why ppl have them specially if they do have a lot of money protecting there investments and childrens futures! xx
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CommentAuthorheidianne
David and I made a joke about it yesterday. He said we should have one stating "everything is his" lol
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CommentAuthorMrs (Dove) Pidgeon
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CommentAuthorMrs Rebecca Hossfeld
I'm having to get one done, well it was supposed to be a pre-nup but it's still not done so it's becoming a marital contract as his MIL insisted on one as I'm not Canadian & thought I would take him for everything, he's not bothered really but he's trying to keep her quiet, also he knows it won't be legally binding as I did not recieve independant advice from my own lawyer etc.
CommentAuthoreebeegeebee
I don't know, I can get that the superrich use prenups to protect themselves from predators but I don't really care on a personal level, as I'd still never sign one - and if Chris asked me to I'd probably reconsider my decision to marry him. Unless you have serious assets to protect, the loss of which would affect more than just yourself (like in the case of this paper heiress) I honestly don't see the point. It's just another reason not to work hard on your marriage when things get tough.
CommentAuthorMrs Alsbetty
Oops didnt see this im on my phone bit small haha anyway as i was saying i dont like them they say to me that youvdontvtrust someone even before you are married x
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CommentAuthorAldridge2B
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when h2b to be and i get a mortgage we are signing with the solicistors that the deposit will still be mine. this is to protect my inheritance and my inheritance for my daugter. so i supose this is a sort of pre nup just not before we are married.
craig and i have talked about this and he is completly happy with my decision. this is not because i dont trust him and i think we will split up just because its quite a lot of money x x
CommentAuthorEmsy5000
I struggle with the idea of pre-nups. to me it says that your expecting the worsed to begin with.
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CommentAuthorAtaraxia
I'd say that from now on, given the law of precedent, there's now a pretty good chance that any pre-nup agreement would be legally binding in the UK as any half-decent lawyer will use the case as an example :) Just sayin'
I agree with a few of the other girls that I would do it to protect someone else's interests i.e. a company or children but wouldn't do one for the sake of it if I was rich just because it WOULD seem to me like you are preparing for failure and to me that's no different than saying 'It's okay, if it doesn't work out we can always get divorced' and if anyone came on here with a thread saying 'I'm not sure whether to marry my h2b but I suppose if it doesn't work out there's always divorce' I think it would get a lot of people upset as a lot of us on here would say that's just not the way you should enter into something as sacred as marriage.
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CommentAuthorLindsey Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
i prefer the alternative judicial approach in that you cant plan for failure of a marriage! Marriage is supposed to be for life, and that its supposed to be the intention of the parties when they marry. If you dont think its gonna work i dont think the parties should be marrying.
Just my opionion though.....and not intended to upset anyone. xxxx
CommentAuthorRoxy_Blade
I actually asked Ben if he wanted to get one. Although neither of us are particularly well off at the moment, I have just started my own business and he is set to inherit his parents restaurant and his grandparents camp site in France - both of which make a considerable amount of money. I wanted to do it to prove to him that I want to marry him for him - not for any money which he may come in to in a few years. It was also a sign to his family that I don't care what they have - I am marrying Ben because I love him.
CommentAuthorlinzi
have you seen the weird pre-nups on the news?
"A 2008 investigation by the Chicago Sun-Times found that some of the stranger clauses in pre-nuptial agreements included the right to conduct regular drug tests on the spouse, with financial penalties if they failed; one partner being limited to one football game on a Sunday per season; a $100,000 bonus for every time the partner was unfaithful; and an agreement to limit the wife's weight to 120lbs, subject to a $100,000 fine if exceeded."
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CommentAuthorlinzi
i dont understand the paying out money though, cause once you are married, if you have to give your partner £100,000, then surely it would be joint money anyway? or is that just for the mega rich that both already have millions sitting in their bank accounts.
I could so one for me and H2B - every time I catch you picking your nose you give me a fiver, every time you wanna play xbox when I'm in the room its another fiver, and every time you fart its a tenner!
wonder if any solicitor would write that one up for me! lol
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CommentAuthorsarsibob1
I think this is a difficult one - I have a lot more than my h2b. When we bought together I put in 60k deposit and he put in 6k. I also have a house that I rent out and I pay 2/3 of the bills and mortgage as I earn more than he does. We have a declaration of trust that if anything did go wrong we would get our deposits back and split the remainder but this isn't a pre-nup as such. I am not going into marriage lightly or with the intention of breaking up but if things do go wrong then I also want to be able to buy another property and start again.
CommentAuthorLindsey Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
Ive just been reading up on declarations of trust as part of my Equity and Trusts work. I do find it quite interesting :)
CommentAuthorlinzi
H2B and I both have a flat each. I rent mine out to my sister and we live in his. i have always said that i wouldnt sell my flat until we were married, so that I had security if we ever split up. Ideally I would like to keep my flat until we buy a new place together in a few years time, then from then on in everything would be 50/50. As it should be.
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CommentAuthorKerrylou
The witch in law suggested it as Ross has his own business and the house is his - I pmsl and said "You honestly think I'm a golddigger? He can't afford the house if no-one is renting it and paying the mortgage and the business is in £xxx debt. What money am I after exactly??"
We wouldn't do it, if we were planning for divorce we wouldn't be getting married. IF it came to it the ONLY thing I would want is maintenance for the baby, I've never relied on a man's money in my life and I don't intend to start now. And I've got diddly squat in the way of assets xxx
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CommentAuthorEriksfjord
Interestingly when I bought a house with someone in a previous relationship we had a declaration of trust - and I was glad of it - as I had paid all the deposit! I haven't done that this time - not sure why really - especailly as the house is in my name and I own it! I guess that I must believe that marriage is for life and I wouldn't have ever made this committment with anyone else. You need to have a high level of trust in someone to marry them and my other half always said they would walk away from the house - not that I ever asked! Maybe I am being nieve or maybe I am old enough to trust someone that much! xx
CommentAuthorRachel_Sarah
Me and kevin were thinking of having a pre-nup but decided against it, i dont remember why. He has savings and i have debts so we considered it but i think it was more for his parents piece of mind, which we both said stuff it.
CommentAuthor*Vixie*
andy asked me if i would do one but i dont like them, its like saying you dont trust the person that your meant to trust the most. almost makes marriage seem like a business transaction to me. x
CommentAuthorMrs Rebecca Hossfeld
I agree, we're only doing it for my MIL, I was kinda scared she would back out of being a witness & leave us hanging if I didn't agree, but the thing with ours as mentioned above, as I did not have independant legal advice it will not stand up in court & t only becomes like a contract of trust between us, but I could argue for half of everything & he knows that & knows I would not do that.
To me everything he had before marriage is his regardless & everything after is 50-50, but MIL was worried I'd take half of everything...daft woman!!!
CommentAuthorChrissy~MrsFaulds2b
Don't like them, if my h2b ever even suggested a pre-nup i'd call quits on the relationship and vice-versa. We've been together through some really horrid times and we've ridden the roller coaster of life together more times than i care to remember, sometimes going down and not thinking we'd ever come back up. It's made us stronger and we are deeply in love. We have our home and we have our family. I had my own home when we met and h2b moved in with me, I chose to sell up and use the money as a deposit on the house we now own together. I would never ever dream of saying to h2b i want a pre-nup to protect my investment and i never once thought 'what if it all goes wrong' whilst in the process of getting our new house. If you think like that then no one would move on in life, they'd be too scared that their other half is going to try and clean them out. Sorry but thats no way to live. In my opinion and i totally respect that it's not everyones but, if there is talk of pre-nups then your with the wrong person.
CommentAuthorhaylsmccrone
i agree , dont like them at all, im with the view that whatever we each had before mafriage is ours and everything after is 50/50, not that either of us have much anyway
CommentAuthor*Vixie*
it almost feels like dooming the relationship before you have ever really started. i told andy where he could shove the idea and he just went " yeah ok sorry". i win again! lol xx
CommentAuthorheidianne
i was talking to someone today who knows someone who has got pregnant by a millionaire so shotgun wedding and a pre-nup she didn't expect.
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CommentAuthorMrs (Dove) Pidgeon
I don't know what to think on pre-nups.
On one hand, its the same as a will- if something happens, this is what will happen to our assets. And if theres other people involved, like children from a previous relationship or a family buisness, I think they are a good idea to protect the assets of these people.
But then theres the trust issue- asking someone to sign one could show you don't trust them. But then, if someone refuses to sign one, you have to ask why- is it the lack of trust, or something else? I can see how they can destroy trust.
I definately think they should be legally binding and taken into consideration though.
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CommentAuthorJane
I can see the point in them sometimes, for example, my mother has her own house and I am the only child so really I should inherit it and her savings if she passes away. However, she has married again to a man who has 3 kids of his own and if anything happens to her then I might not inherit anything as the house would surely become his through marriage and he could then choose to pass it on to his own children... As for me and H2B - no pre nup for us as he has no children from previous marriage and we dont own our own house at the moment.
CommentAuthormistaken4u
I'm still unsure if I should get one. I think it's quite sad that we have to plan in case of a divorce.
I've quite quite a bit of money that I inherited from my father five years ago. I also have a couple properties. He has a flat and an expensive car so I was thinking of doing one but I don't want to upset him. Most of my assets are in France at the moment.
CommentAuthorMrsH-2B
I think it's very sad when one is needed, but equally, if not more sad when couple split up and all of a sudden something one of them has worked for for years can be taken away just like that... As far as I'm concerned, anything bought, built, earned before the marriage should belong to the person who bought, built or earned it only ! It should only become joint if both parties want that.. My H2B bought a house at 17 years old, met someone at 19, he got married at 20 and split up a year afterwards, meaning he had to sell the house he bought on his own, that he never put her name on, that she never contributed towards as she didn't have a job all the time they were together to give her £10,000 that she was supposedly owed for the mutual break up ! He only made £12,000 profit in the sale of it.. If he had not had to do that, his plan was to live in it til the mortgage had been paid off which would've been 7 more years, and then rent it out and buy himself another house.. It's ridiculous how it all works.. xxx
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CommentAuthorMrsThomson2B
I don't like the idea of pre-nups...I think it is a curse on your relationship...planning for something that you don't want ot happen.
CommentAuthorInDreamland
I'm not sure I like the idea of them. It feels like you're thinking you will divorce and want to protect yourself from it. Also I'd feel that he didn't really love me which was why he was planning for divorce.
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CommentAuthorDecember
H2B's friend sent me a facb00k massage 'joking' about a pre-nup. I have to admit, I hit the roof. H2B and I were in the process of buying our house together then. He is an Army Officer so is on a good wage, but I am a secondary school teacher so also on a good wage. Yeah, he earns more than me and has far less outgoings because the Army pay loads for him, but we were both contributing to our house. He put in more of the deposit than me, but the way I see it is that I'll have to sacrifice far more than money in the future if we have a family. He won't stop working, I'll have to move around to be with him. So it works out in the long run.
I understand that sometime people have huge amounts to protect, but if you love someone wholeheartedly... I dunno. Don't agree with them myself, but I also don't agree with divorce. Not for me. If others want to then fine, I don't judge them. But it would have to be something EXTREME to make me agree to a divorce.
