I had a bit of an issue with my venue last week which has left me really down so would like your opinion if I can please!
We booked and paid our deposit towards the back end of last year. We booked to have the ceremony in their restautant room which overlooks the gardens and then our reception in a big function room which looks like a gorgeous converted barn. The wedding co-ordinator phoned me last Thursday and said to me "I'm just ringing to let you know that we now have the restaurant free all day if you're interested" so I said no thank you, we'd like to keep our arrangements as we'd booked them because the barn had sold it for us. She then advised that they'd had an enquiry from a "substantially larger wedding" who also wanted the same day so would we mind having the smaller room. I said we didn't want to do this, otherwise we'd have booked the restaurant room all day if we'd wanted it. Anyway, she's arranged this other wedding for the day after but it's really put me on a downer because it feels like our wedding doesn't matter to them - they just wanted to shove us in a smaller room to make room for a bigger party and get more money. I'm also worried that this other wedding party will book up all the rooms on the day of our wedding because they'll probably want to stay the night before their wedding - there's only 23 bedrooms so not much room for both parties! It's not until September next year so obviously we haven't sent our invites out yet so our guests don't know to book!
I just really feel like seeing if we can get our deposit back (if we can!) and going elsewhere. She's really tainted it for me now and I really don't feel like having my wedding there anymore. Anyway, sorry... rant over! Just wanted to know what others would do in this situation?
CommentAuthorweemindyxx
awww huni i see what you mean what i would do is complain and let them know how that made you feel, also tell them that your thinking of cancelling and ask if you would get your deposit back you never know they may start sooking up and you could get a discount of your wedding, on the other hand remember its your day dont let them ruin it for you if your heart is set on that venue stick to your guns hun, dont let this spoil it for you.xxx
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CommentAuthorsamitrev2B
awww im really sorry huni ur feeling like that u sud let ur guests know so if they want to book rooms they can.... n also when the contract is written its usually a non refundable deposit.... its a harsh business the wedding as to any bride its the most important day the organiser will put time n effort into ur wedding as thats what they should do if she doesnt do that then shes rubbish at her job but at the same time they r gonna book as many weddings as poss to make money thats all what they want but like i said if shes good at her job u will still be treated 100% and ur wedding will be brilliant... dnt let that person ruin ur dreams of ur day u sud ring her n ask her how the rooms are meant to be as it was first come first serve n u booked ur wedding first.... i hope u sort it and have a magical day xx
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CommentAuthorFuture Mrs Drake
Aww thats a nasty thing to do when you had your heart set on it. Like weemindy said if you are still determined to have that venue, complain and tell them exactly how you feel. At end of day you had a verbal agreement of plans so why should you have to change your plans! Tell them how dissapointed you are at how inconsiderate they have been about you and your big day its not everyday you get married and you thought you had the perfect venue. Now it looks like they only care about money! You booked those rooms and they were all happy taking your money! I really feel for you and just thinking someone could do this to another person and shattering their hopes of their perfect day. I really hope it works out and you get your original plans xx
CommentAuthoralmost a year wife!!
what a B****!!!!! i would have told her exactly what i thought of her!!! tbh if she was a "professional" wedding planner/ organiser theres no way on earth she would had the gall to call you and ask that question!!!!! i feel for you........
That is cheeky! Can't believe they'd do that! Would definitely ring and let them know how cross you are - as Weemindy says, they might give you some money off or something, it's worth a shot. As for changing the venue, maybe sleep on it a few nights first - if you really loved it when you saw it it would be a shame to lose out if it's the perfect place. However, if they're not helpful when you ring and if you still feel put off after some time has passed then maybe you should change - the place you get married in should only have good vibes for you. x
CommentAuthorRaggedyAnne
I feel for you i really do, as i had the same thing happen. our wedding is small and when we first booked it was OK, but then she started moving and changing things and made us feel like our wedding wasnt good enough because it wasnt big enough.....(24 people) It might not be big, but its going to be great. but i couldnt get over how she made me feel, so we booked somewhere else. this was only last week so I have yet to ask for my deposit back. even if i didnt get my money back, i am not happy to give her another penny. I never would have been happy there because of how she made us feel. saying we had to have our ceremony at 2pm and be eating by 3pm so she can have us out of the dining room by 5.30 to get it ready for her evening hotel guests. rushing us out and finishing our wedding after just 3.5 hours.
I say go with your gut feeling, and if you know you wont be happy, move it now and move on. let them know they cant treat customers like that/
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CommentAuthorXbox widow
Thats really bad customer service, cant you send your invites out early and explain its because of the room predicament. I dont think they will give you your deposit back but there's no harm asking.
CommentAuthorloustew2012
really sorry about what has happened, shes not very good then with her customer service if she made u feel like that. id go down and say that your no happy and that you either want your deposit back or you want to deal with someone else or speak to a manager, no one has the right to make you feel like that, at the end of the day shes there to make you feel welcome and represent the company not make you feel doubtful and the way you do...x
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CommentAuthorjellybean
aww huni i feel for you , we had a disaster with our first booked hotel , luckily we only paid a small deposit , but things turned out for the better , the place we booked now cant do enough for us , the wedding co ordinator is really great . I would go and see them and tell them how you feel and hopefully they will be more understanding x
CommentAuthorEMC
If you really liked the venue you should stick with it. You won't even notice this snooty woman on your day! About the hotel though, if you know the guests who will be wanting rooms, like, parents and bridesmaids, get in touch and book as many rooms in advance as possible. We're putting the option of rooms in our invite, and getting people to book through us.
CommentAuthorlinzipple
Thanks for your replies everyone. I think I'm going to email her today. I'd rather email than ring so I can think about what I want to say - knowing me, I'll go blank when I get on the phone. I'll just explain how it's made us feel and tell her that it isn't acceptable to make us feel like that on what's meant to be the happiest day of our lives! I did really love the venue but she's made me feel so rubbish about it, i've gone from being really excited to not caring at all anymore! We haven't actually signed the contract yet so I'm hoping we'll get our deposit back.. fingers crossed anyway!!
CommentAuthorRaggedyAnne
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good luck to both of us Linzippie......... we didnt sign a contract either because she 'never got round to it' ! so i am hoping thats the thing that will help us get our £200 back. I was feeling really stupid, and H2B was not happy to be moving the venue, and i felt that he was mad at ME, because i am so indecisive, but today i feel a million percent justified in the decision. on the hotels website it clearly states in these exact words... ''To complete your perfect day, we offer a complimentary overnight stay for the bride and groom in one of our romantic bedrooms.'
and yet i found an email with a rough working out from her, charging us £200 for it AND an extra £100 for a room for 2 hours for me and the bridesmaids to get ready in, as she didnt want us using 'our room' ....no because she could charge us for 2 instead of one thats why! I knew she was trying to add stuff on here and there, and told H2B this but i think he just thought i wanted to swap for the sake of swapping, , but only today did i find the proof and he is now happy we have swapped. I think I can use this to get my refund back, stating on the website its free then charging us. OK she might mean that a large wedding we would get a free room, but the website doesnt state a size at all. I am really happy that we have done something about it now, rather than later, and had to pay all kinds of hidden charges. And i'll tell you summat else, it was the girls on here who suggested i do something about it,soooo.....Thanks Girls for the advice. XXX
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CommentAuthorlinzipple
I'm glad you spotted all that RaggedyAnne.... definitely ammunition to get your deposit back! I can't believe they have the nerve to add stuff on when it says otherwise on their website. So cheeky! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you - let me know how you get on!
I fired off a very honest but frank email this afternoon, hopefully we'll get something back soon!
xx
CommentAuthorRaggedyAnne
Good luck linzipple... have you got an alternative venue in mind if you are able to cancel and get the deposit back?........
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CommentAuthorlinzipple
Yes, we've spotted another hotel that we're going to look around this Saturday. Are you happier with the venue you've got booked now?
I had a thought earlier... if the venue won't give us our deposit back, we'll just ask to amend our booking so it's just the room hire for the civil ceremony (if they can ask to amend the booking then I'm assuming we can too!!). So we can stay at the new hotel, get ready there, get cars to take us to the 1st hotel for the ceremony, have a few photos and then go back to the other hotel for the reception. That way, the rude lady won't get an extra penny of our money! It's a fall back anyway just in case!
CommentAuthorkatielea100
all they care about is money but hey u stuck by ur guns and u got wat u want just enjoy it now :) x
CommentAuthorlinzipple
Well I just had a response to my email. She was really curt, abrupt and completely un-sympathetic to the fact that she has put such a downer on our wedding day.
I'm going to get H2B to take over now - I'm so upset about it all. I've had enough!
CommentAuthorRaggedyAnne
any luck linzipple? It really gets you down doesnt it? I hope H2B will take over and help sort this out for you. Save all the emails so that if it came to small claims court you can show how unprofessional she was towards you, its all good ammunition against her.
Yes, I am much happier with my new venue, theres just one tiny problem, their rooms are fully booked so we cant stay over, but I have a cunning plan. If we dont get our deposit back from the original hotel, (its only walking distance from the new hotel) we have paid £200 deposit, and thats exactly the cost of their honeymoon suite.. so as we havent got a room at our new venue, we DO have one booked there, and they also have our £200. I would maybe prefer to get my £200 back and either stay somewhere else or go home rather than face her, but this is a way of not only getting a really nice room for the night, and not being robbed of that money.
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CommentAuthorlinzipple
Hi RaggedyAnne. Sorry it's taken me so long to respond - not really been in a wedding mood! lol
No luck what so ever. Deposits are non-refundable and they're refusing to even acknowledge our concerns and emailed today to say that we're making a mountain out of a mole hill. So don't really know what to do! Kinda feel like they've got us over a barrel!
I'm glad yours has worked out though. It's definitely a good idea use the honeymoon suite there - especially if it's within walking distance. That way you don't lose your money and if you do see her then at least you'll be showing her how happy you are after your amazing wedding that you had somewhere else! Rub it in her face a little. lol.
Is there no way you could go above her head and request your deposit back. If they are that unhelpful I would change venues too. I think that they sound so unprofessional and uninterested in client's with less money to offer. I understand why you are so upset and if they can't they should not be in that profession. Good luck
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CommentAuthorlinzipple
I really want some impartial advice please. If the same thing had happened to you, would you feel a bit upset about it, like your wedding isn't really important to them and they don't mind pushing you to one side to make way for a better offer?
We've tried to raise our concerns with them about this possibly cropping up again in the future if someone else enquires about our date again. And we also mentioned that we're worried that they keep asking us to confirm which rooms we've booked when we've done this on at least 5 or 6 different occasions. A wedding is a big deal and we want to be confident that the organising of our wedding is in good hands. Since we told them that we're worried, they've been extremely unhelpful and dismissive. They sent us a really snotty email yesterday, ignoring all of our questions and then told us that we are making a mountain out of a molehill and basically calling us childish.
I'd just like to know if anyone else thinks we're "making a mountain out of a molehill" or if we're right in feeling a little bit concerned?
CommentAuthorOWB
Have they agreed to go with the original booking, giving you the larger room?
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CommentAuthorlinzipple
They keep asking what the original booking was! They're clueless
CommentAuthorOWB
Do you have it in writing? If it was agreed for you to have the full use of the property then I would argue this with them. As for the breakdown in relationship, this may be hard to rebuild. Can you arrange a meeting and discuss it in person (followed by an email to clarify what was discussed).
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CommentAuthorLittle Kettle
I don't think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. I'd feel exactly how you are feeling. I think the way you have been treated is plain awful and I'd have no faith in them either. Hope you can get your money back and find somewhere even more lovely Hx
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CommentAuthor~feebee~
That's disgusting the way you're being treated. I think they hope you will go somewhere else if they keep on being horrible. Well I tell you where you SHOULD go....to the local rag! Also give them bad reviews online if they continue to be like this. You're not making a mountain out of a molehill ffs! x x
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CommentAuthorRaggedyAnne
I would go get advice from citezans advice, and take them to a small claims court. And i think you have a good chance of winning considering no contract was signed. good luck
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CommentAuthorNicsquared
If someone told me i was making a mountain out of a molehill that would make me even more mad. I would have lost confidence in them and not be happy that my wedding meant so little to them Now Im still looking into this myself but i think under the law there is no such thing as a non-refundable deposit - a deposit serves to protect the seller from the vendor pulling out, however if they are able to resell the" product" then they shouldnt profit out of your loss. They would be allowed to keep an amount as an admin fee but that should be it. The issue would obviously be that they would need to resell the date but given that you are 17 months before it would be more than likely and likely that they would be able to book a bigger wedding and make more profit not less. With that, given that they have been treating you so badly and the fact that you have not signed a contract i think you would be in with a great chance of getting back your money
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CommentAuthorbecky -mrs firth
let me get this straight! cos am a bit confused, she rang to ask i u wanted the restaurant, u said no so nothins changed???
if thats rite in wat am thinkin then sorry hun she was only askin as they are a buisness and wanna make money, now if she wud of said u gotta do it then yes i wud feel bad etc but seen as she aint said that then i dont see a problem, sorry
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CommentAuthorRaggedyAnne
There is a lot of money and feeling invested into weddings, and we KNOW that our wedding means nothing but business to them, but at the same time we should expect....and deserve to be treated with respect for our day. Not just handled as if our wedding doesnt matter to them., OK we know it doesnt, but when they have acted so badly, it makes me wonder how special they are going to treat the actual wedding day. And as far as business goes, she had no need to ask which room you wanted, she should KNOW that from when you booked.
Linzipple.......if they keep asking what the original booking was, that sounds like they havent got a clue! and how can they say you cant have your deposit back or they would lose money on your booking.....if its clear that they dont even know what kind of booking you have?
Even if this was sorted out to your satisfaction now, I still wouldnt be happy to get married there, because they have ruined your planning, by treating you as if your wedding was nothing. and no amount of apologies from them is going to make that go away.
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CommentAuthorbecky -mrs firth
u shdu have it in writtin for sure, u got a recipet that u paid the money though?
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CommentAuthoremmaaa
Tricky one, if you can find somewhere else you love, I'd probably go elsewhere if it is going to really affect your enjoyment of the day, but in truth, they DO have you over a barrel, they've already made it obvious that it would make their lives easier if you went eslewhere, so they're probably not going to apologise, give discounts or make any special effort to appease you. Sounds like a pretty inexperienced customer sales person to be honest, you should have never been told the reason they wanted you to take the other room! Talk to someone from CAB about getting your deposit back, there's no way they should be able to force you out with their behaviour and still keep your deposit.
CommentAuthorlinzipple
Thanks for your advice everyone. Part of me feels like we should just back down now and carry on, but if they can't remember our booking then how can I have fath in them getting our big day right. A wedding is a big deal and I need to be able to trust them but I can't!!
I wouldn't mind so much, but all we keep saying to them is... what happens if someone else enquires about our day again - will they do this to us again? But they ignore us completely and continue to ask us to confirm the rooms when we've already done it countless times! Really losing my patience but they've said the deposit is non-refundable so what can we do!! Grrr!
CommentAuthorFuture mrs mac
Not surprised your upset - how did you pay for you deposit? Have you spoke to CAB?NOt sure if this is just in Scotland but your allowed a cooling off period with a contract and as you haven't actually signed one you might be able to get your money back - might be a bit of a fight though. If you really love the venue to you think you could move on from it?x
CommentAuthorlinzipple
My mum paid our deposit - I think it was by debit card.
I phoned CAB and they said there isn't a clause or anything we can quote to get it back... even though we haven't signed a contract yet, apparently by paying the deposit we entered into a contract.
I'd like to go see the venue again and see how I feel I think. At the moment, I feel like I'd only be keeping the wedding there because I have to, which isn't really the best way to be feeling about your wedding venue is it! lol
CommentAuthorRaggedyAnne
linzipple......if you can amend the wedding booking to just have the ceremony there, that would be better wouldnt it? then go elsewhere for the reception. you COULD tell the venue a few porkies and say there are fewer guests now, so its not worth doing the whole big wedding reception thing.....they will then think that theres not a lot of money going to be spent, and MAY offer the refund....but if not , then just get married there. and hold the reception elsewhere. if they say no to that...there is your reason to cancel and get a refund because they are registered for weddings...but they are basically refusing you so you should get your money back.
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CommentAuthorlinzipple
Hi RaggedyAnne
Yes, that was my suggestion but H2B doesn't want anything more to do with them. I don't see how we can come out of this winning though so I think we should do the bare minimum there and then like you said, tell a few porkies and have the reception somewhere else! You have a point aswell, there is nowhere that states you must have your reception there. So if they refuse our booking then in effect it's them cancelling!
Have you tried to get your deposit back yet, or are you just going to book a room at your old venue instead?
CommentAuthorOWB
If you can afford to then walk away or have as little as possible there. If not then email them everything that you agreed on the initial meeting and demand a contract within 48 hours.
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CommentAuthorlinzipple
If H2B agrees then we will just have the ceremony there. Unfortunately we can't afford to just walk away, especially when the deposit was paid by my mum and dad - I'm not losing their money.
Would be nice if everything went smoothly just for once. Never does though!!
CommentAuthorRaggedyAnne
I would ifi was you....£500 is a lot to lose, and you will not only lose that but then have to pay that much again elsewhere.
I wroteto her Saturday and she should receive it tomorrow. I chickened out of going round there, but even if i HAD gone round, i still think its more official in writing. I'll keep you posted.
Thing is with yours, if you are not happy now then you never will be, and you may as well have the ceremony there to get your cash back, then move on somewhere else, surely thats better than having to hold the whole lot there. which is what you basically will have to do if you cant walk away.....and lets face it who can walk away from £500/
If I dont get mine back i will be mad, and I am going to fight for it, but mine was only £200. I just didnt care, I lost all faith in her and I would never have felt settled. I am glad I moved venue, refund or no refund....
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CommentAuthorlinzipple
If ours was £200 then I'd be more tempted. I hope you get it back though RaggedyAnne. It's not fair that they should get to hang onto it when they've upset you!
I'm tempted to get a friend to ring our venue and pretend they've got a very large wedding and ask about dates near ours. I'd be intrigued to hear what they say about our date!
CommentAuthorMrs Davro
Yea I would get your friend to ring then tell us what they say.
CommentAuthorRaggedyAnne
They got the letter I sent this morning, and I came home from work to an email from her, and she is happy to refund my £200 and the cheque is in the post she said......YAY! She said she was sorry to lose us and that she wouldnt be able to share our wedding day, but I doubt that very much. But I was OK losing it.....well not OK....but was prepared to lose it so that I got my dream venue and got away from her. I look on getting it back a big bonus, It will now pay for the toast and welcome drinks......as thats almost £200.....
Keep at her linzipple, maybe you will wear her down! good luck, I wish I could help.
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CommentAuthorElle23
Excellent Anne!!!! Great news. Bet your letter was well worded for her not to put up a fuss! Good on you. Good luck vibes for you now Linz xx
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CommentAuthorLea&joe
I work at a 4* hotel which does over 150 weddings a year (including mine this year!!!) and if a B&G had sent off a deposit for a wedding but not the signed contract, then decided that the venue wasn't right for them, then we would have to refund the payment, as there is no legally binding contract. Whether you had paid the deposit or not!
What kind of venue asks a bride to move rooms because they have a 'bigger booking' - this has really infuriated me so god only knows how you and h2b feel!!!!!
I hope you manage to work things out! I can't even begin to imagine how you are feeling.
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CommentAuthorFuture mrs mac
Yay Raggedyanne bet your chuffed
CommentAuthorRaggedyAnne
Yeah I am, but reading her email made me feel a real b1tch....she sounded so nice, but then if she had been this noce in the first place I never would have cancelled. The money will come in handy, because I was really expecting to lose it, so to know I am getting it back is like 'extra money'.. As you know our wedding is small, (24) so this £200 will pay for the toast and the welcome drinks £150, AND its pays for the extra course I added to the menu....Sorbet at £2 per head £48......equals £200.
I am chuffed to bits.....
Now Lets hope linzipple is lucky with her venue.....fingers crossed.
I found it better to put it in writing, makes it more offical than a phone call or email. I pointed out why WE were not happy, and outlined the things I felt were wrong with the booking, things they had done wrong or changed. and for that reason I felt it necessary to cancel. and as no contract was signed , so nothing was set in stone, I will be expecting the deposit of £200 to be refunded please. short and straight to the point, not ASKING for the refund but telling them that was the expectation because of the way things had turned sour, and that I no longer felt my wedding was in the best hands because of what had been changed. I put the onus on them.
OK it might not have worked everywhere, but it worked for me.
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CommentAuthorRaggedyAnne
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And true to her word, I came home from work today and there was a £200 cheque from her .