I need a wee bit of advice or even words of wisdom...
Me and my H2B have our hearts set on being wed in the Catholic church.
(H2B has been wed before and has divorced)
Although when we went to speak to the lady at the chapel who arranges wedding etc... she said my H2B would need to apply for an annulment as a divorce is not enough in the eyes of the catholic church...
Now my H2B is stressing at what the cost of an annulment will cost.
We were looking in to going else where, but our hearts are set on this and its upsetting having all these problems in the way.
maybe one of you lovely ladies can enlighten me, xxxx thank you
CommentAuthoralmost a year wife!!
found this on goog...le
"Legal divorce has no bearing whatsoever on a Church's Holy Sacrament. Therefore, as far as God and His Church is concerned, you're still married.
If you wish to marry "again", in the Catholic Church, you're going to need to seek an annulment of your previous marriage. An annulment is a declaration by the Church that, for some reason that has yet to be determined, your first marriage was null and void to begin with. Hence, it was NEVER valid.
Mind you, the Church will only grant annulments when there, in fact, IS a reason why the marriage is null and void. If the Church looks into it, and finds nothing, it cannot annul your marriage."
that was posted 2011, hope it helps
xxxx
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CommentAuthorPB
Had a quick google on 'annulment' and it made my head spin lol! Sounds very complicated.I always thought annulment was only possible if the marriage was deemed to never have been legal and was therefore declared 'null' and void ie if one party was not legallly entitled to marry the other. However on reading more it seems its not as straight forward as that especially with regards to the Catholic Church.I would suggest speaking to your priest so that he can advise you further.Good Luck xxx
CommentAuthorInDreamland
A friend of mine had exactly the same problem. She said something to me about her hubby being asked whether his ex-wife was RC, did they marry in an RC church and whether the marriage had been annulled. It sounded very complicated (they ended up giving up and marrying in a registry office) but I suggest that you speak with your priest who should be able to guide you through the right steps. Good luck xx
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CommentAuthorSam
edited
It really depends on whether the first marriage was a valid marriage.
I found some info on the subject and I'll just paste it in because it is too complicated to summarize:
The question of whether or not you can 'remarry' in a Catholic church is dependent on whether or not your first marriage was valid, not on its sacramentality as such.
If you were married in a Catholic church, it would be assumed that your marriage was valid, and therefore that you are still married and not free to enter into another marriage. That your husband was not a Catholic does not of itself make the marriage invalid, and in fact if he had been baptised the marriage would have been sacramental.
If you were married in a protestant church without permission of the local Catholic bishop, and according to the requirements of the Catholic Church, the marriage would not have been valid, and neither would a marriage in a registry office have been valid. In these cases you would be free to marry in a Catholic church, as you would not have been, nor are, married.
I hope this clarifies the general situation. There are other factors, which can invalidate a marriage, for example, one spouse refusing to have children. To look into that area, you would need to talk to your local Catholic priest, to see if there were likely to be grounds for your marriage to be declared null or not valid (often called an annulment).
from: catholic marriage centre dot org dot uk slash marriage faq dot
If the marriage wasn't consummated it can be annulled, thats all I can remember.
Sorry. Probably not much help. I think you'd have to get ex wife involved for an annulment too. Xx
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CommentAuthorJoanneS30
Thanks for all your comments. after visiting the manse and speaking to the priest and the service minister, stephen would have to get an annulment, which they would help fill out forms etc... but still going to cost us in region of £500+
so our idea of getting married inn the chapel has been torn up into a million pieces n and i am rather gutted, :-( boo hoo... why do things have to be complicated.
CommentAuthorSam
:( Is CoE an option? At least you'd be able to get married in a church
CommentAuthorLauraJo87
Oh that's sad :-(
But these things happen for a reason and I'm sure that you will find the perfect venue xx
My Beating Heart Belongs To You
30 August 2013
The First Day Of My Happily Ever After
CommentAuthorShirleygirly
My uncle got an annulment from the actual pope when he married my auntie 30 odd years ago. He had been with his first wife for 8 years and it had never been consummated and I mean NEVER! I think the pope saw that as reasonable grounds to nullify the wedding. My poor uncle must have been borderline insane. I think there has to be very good reasons for the marriage to have been annulled and it's my understanding that it is a very complicated procedure. I would have loved to have had a catholic ceremony but my h2b is divorced and it just wasn't worth the hassle so we're doing it by registrar. The more I think about it the happier I am with the situation.
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CommentAuthorKirsty
My Mum fell out with the Catholic church for this issue. SHe was first married in a COE ceremony to her first husband. They had 2 children, but got divorced after he cheated on her. The Catholic church wouldn't annul the marage as they has children, but wouldn't accept the first marrage as a marrage as it wasn't catholic! Very contradictory. We have been COE ever since!
My OH and i are doing the reg office the day before our 'wedding' with a blessing in our church. The priest was happy to bless our marrage, even tho my OH isn't religious, and so keeps every one happy. Perhaps you could ask the catholic church if it would bless your marrage?
CommentAuthorPB
Is it possible that you get married in a civil ceremony and then have a Catholic Church blessing? i don't know how the catholic church works but i know this is often an option for people who want to get married in a c of e church and are prevented for some reason. It looks just like a wedding but you have done the 'legal bit' beforehand. xxx
CommentAuthorNicolaR21
I'm going through the annulment process at the moment. My h2b is catholic. I'm christian (c of e denomination). As far as i'm concerned God is the only judge and the fact my vicar would happily marry us, shows that i have no reason to not be allowed to Marry. My partners priest though is adamant from the catholic interpretation of the bible stating that if the church recognize my previous marriage as a godley marriage then my man and i will have to part as i would not be free to marry. ARRRR Wish i could see the future. I'm thinking 18 months down the line i might be 39 and single and never have opportunity of family...and happiness. Don't want to loose my man, but he wont marry me unless the catholic church agree.
I do wish you Joanne and your man a very long and happy marriage. The church is the people and the building is just that. I'm sure were ever you get married it will be wonderful.
CommentAuthoralmost a year wife!!
tbh i think the catholic church makes it very hard for people to remarry in church (i get the whole marriage is for lfe etc because at the time that is what were marrying for) but sometimes it does go wrong and i think the church sometimes forgets were human! x
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CommentAuthorBarbaraU
A friend of mine was married in a registry office but later was divorce as she was catholic and went to mass every Sunday she believed that she could no longer take communion, after a few years of this the priest (who was new) explained to her that as she was never married in church in the eyes of the catholic church she had never been married.
CommentAuthorMrsK2b
That is cheap to be honest with you. As long as he hasnt got children it should be okay. The cheapest I have seen it is £1200+VAT
I am Catholic and I would of loved to of got married in my church but H2B isnt and we would of had to go to marrage classes and he didnt want to so we decided not to get married in a church but I am going to invite him to the wedding reception as my whole family has a lot to do with the church. We are going to have a blessing tho
Cant wait until I become Mrs K
CommentAuthorgerrymac
Hi JoanneS30
I am Catholic, my husband is CofE. We went through all this ourselves. He had been married before in a CofE church and then divorced. When we wanted to marry in my church we found we couldn't because, although I am the Catholic and had not been married before as he had been married and within his religion it was therefore recognised in Canon Law. We started down the road of annulment in order that I could have my Catholic wedding as I am a practising Catholic. However, for many reasons I won't bore you with, I put a stop to it as it was causing alot of upset within his family. We ended up having our wedding in a CofE church by a vicar who was happy to do so. We were not even allowed a blessing in the Catholic church as they simply would not recognise our marriage. That was nearly 20years ago and we have now, JUST LAST WEEK, finally got an annulment on his previous marriage. I have always wanted a Catholic wedding as, within Canon Law, we are not married! We have 3 daughters and are all practising Catholics. My hubby wants to become Catholic too but can't without an annulment. We re-started the process (now that time has moved on and peoples feelings and opinions are no longer so raw) almost two years ago and it has taken that long from start to finish. We are in the Lancashire area. We have just received the letter saying it has all been approved and it has cost exactly £400 - something they do not charge until the very end and only if the annulment is successful. We are now planning our 2nd wedding.....almost 20 years later....in our Catholic church and I'm really excited....hopefully all happening before Christmas!!!! Good luck with your future and with whatever you decide to do......but make sure you do what is comfortable for you both and enjoy every minute of it x
CommentAuthorButtonAndBoo
The H2B's mother and step dad had this. But they got there in the end. It was beautiful and she revieved a letter from the pope afterwards which is now framed and stood on the sideboard in there dinning room.
Sorry I can't help you with any of the mobo jumbo bits though.
Good luck.
X
CommentAuthorFrancescaH25
Hi, hoping someone can help. Did anyone be granted an annulment? If so, on what grounds? I didn't realise how much was involved in this, my Fiancé is non catholic and non baptised and is legally divorced from his ex wife who is also non catholic. However I am catholic and baptised. If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.
CommentAuthorInDreamland
This is an old thread and you have already opened a new one and bumped another old one I had to close. Please only have one thread on any topic. This will now be closed. Thank you
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